Why the Wii could fail

[shams]

Hus said:

shams said: By that reasoning, it will win - as the Wii is an easy port from the PS2 (the most successful console ever), whereas the other 2 platforms are not.

dude is that supposed to be serious ? ........................

shams said: - HD / graphics *cannot* hurt the Wii. Its already accepted that it has WORSE graphics - this can only hurt the 360/PS3.

they already are, PS3 Madden out sold wii madden. All of Ea's sports games will do better on PS3/360, with Ea having to make a specific wii version... will it be worth it for them. Wii with twice the units is getting outsold.

shams said: - 3rd party support can only (partially) hurt the Wii. Nintendo will always support it, and this is where most sales come from. If the Wii succeeds in the market, economics ensures that 3rd-party support will follow.

madden economics dont help. Spend 20 mill on a PS3/360 version... and then 10 mill on a wii...... that sells less then the PS3 version.

shams said: - online (or lack of) can't hurt it. Firstly we *know* its coming (and it does work) - so its just a matter of time. Secondly people have been going gaga over the Wii - without any significant online support (except for VC). Online can only be a bonus - not a negative (although it could shorten its lifetime).

time is the wiis enemy... between live and home wiis online will be a joke.

Hus, you are missing the point. The Wii is booming *now*. For it to fail, something has to change between NOW and the FUTURE to make it fail. If the Wii trends like it is trending now, it will easily take the #1 spot and be anything BUT a failure:

(not sure what happened to the quoting here - mismatch between the old/new?)

 

1/ Yes - porting a PS2 (or a GC or Xbox1) game to the Wii is *much* easier than to the PS3 or 360. Do you debate this? Stat another thread for it ;)

 2/ That's my point - Madden will always sell better on higher graphics platforms. This isn't something unexpected. The Wii costs a *fraction* of the development cost of the PS3/360 version - and regardless - is STILL turning a profit. Madden isn't a game you would expect to become "awesome" through the inclusion of the Wiimote (but if it does - that's an extra bonus).

3/ Duh. Spend 20mill on a PS3/360 version, and *5* million developing Wii/PS2/Xbox/GC versions. Both turn a profit (PS3 *less* likely to), so its irrelevant. The Wii version *will* sell more than the GC versions did - and EA kept up support for that. So your point is a dud.

4/ Now that statement reeks of fanboy-ism. I thought you were trying to make an intelligent point ;)

The GC was never online. The Wii is booming with NO online games. MS (and to a lesser extend Sony) both rely on online for key games (Resistance, Live, etc).

The Wii will only get stronger - not weaker - once online games come out and make an impact.

If the Wii had no online capabilities, I would agree that no online would be a potential killer. But it does (and in some ways, has more powerful online if the WiiConnect24 actually turns out to be useful).