dharh said:
If you take MMO's out of the picture, PC gaming has been stagnating or drifting downwards. Many of the big PC games are also found on HD consoles now. Whats left are the low budget games, mini-games, etc. Sure that part of the PC game market might drift towards the Wii, but its the HD consoles which left the hole wide enough in the first place. |
This is what I love. Whenever I talk about sales with a wii supporter it's always "if you exclude this" or "if you take that out of the equation".
I once responded to some dolt who said gaming was losing popularity and market by saying that gaming has been growing tremendously every year. He said that as a way of saying that the Wii was needed to stimulate the failing market. He then said, "well if you take the wii and the ds out of the sales, then gaming is actually falling 9%". What a stupid argument. You say that it is the wii that is saving the market and then include the ds which not many people actually have a problem with. Lots of people, even hardcorez like myself, love the ds and what it does for the industry. The Wii on the other hand, just doesn't have the same advantages as the ds, in terms of games, portability, price and so on.
but I digress....
"If you take MMO's out of the picture... " First thing in my mind- "WTF"
What kind of argument is that. I have never heard a more blatant disregard of rationale in order to prove a point.
MMO is part of the industry, it is a type of game that has been around forever. If RTS' controlled the market like back in the starcraft, war craft, red alert days, then your argument would be "take away the RTS's blah blah blah". It's a synonymous statement.
Right now, that is what is popular. You take it away like it somehow makes sense, but what makes more sense is that WoW is the biggest game of all time, and has taken gamers from other genres.
The sales are increasing, it is just that the genre dominance changes.
This, you may find hard to believe, is why other games are having a hard time, this and piracy. And yet, lo and behold, amidst all the piracy that is going on, which is also growing every year especially now in the recession, pc game sales are STILL increasing. So take that bullshit somewhere else.
I'm not even going to focus on the resst of your statement because it relies on the "fact" that PC gaming is in decline.
@bdbdbd
I read your post, and I completely agree with you. Not one bit of it is something I have ever said is untrue. However, despite your logic, which I also feel is very accurate detailed, you leave one bit out.
In the part where Nintendo is going to follow the core market upstream, you have no timeline and you guesstimate at what will happen. No doubt that nintendo is going to put out some core games, but they also did so last year. So that is just obvious. The doubt that I have is when you think they will get more core games, because looking at the trend, I see more cancellations and downgrades from everything nintendo. From stellar zelda graphics on the GC, to the cancellation of KidIc. coupled with what I feel is a real slap in the face to core gamers for the last ten months.