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Rocketpig: The Pal version of PS3 have 65NMs and we got it in march. I Believe it is easier for PS3 do go down in price then 360. But 360 is much cheaper to produce now because it have been out longer. Microsoft seems to be slower in the hardware department and Sony seems better at that because Sony is hardware company. That is why I believe Sony will start with 45NMs before Microsoft. I dont believe either that ps3 will be 299$ in 08, I am hoping for 399$. The big question is does Japan/USA PS3s have 65NMs?