Halo 3: ODST, The Counduit or Killzone 2?

[appolose]

Solid_Raiden said:

appolose said:

--OkeyDokey-- said:

irstupid said:
The conduit becuase others offer nothing new besides better graphics over other games I have played on those systems.

Alright.

The Conduit is the most generic game on that list and it's probably right up there on most other lists. If it were on any other console it would be completely ignored. I doubt HVS would have even found someone willing to publish it by now.

Shows how desperate you guys are for shooters, but this has been pretty obvious ever since I heard people saying that crappy MOH PSP port was actually a good game.

How is Killzone 2 any less generic than The Conduit?  I would think that the storyline's of both are hardly mind-blowing, so I don't see Killzone winning it their.  If it's because of graphics and physics, then I would think The Conduit's controls might set itself apart from almost all other games.

Also, you mentioned (I think it was you) that Killzone scope aiming is affected by how much one's hand is moving: The Conduit (and, unavoidably, all other Wii FPS's) have this feature.

 I think someone mentioned the cover system of KZ2.  It's where you can lean around a corner, right?  MOH:H2 has this already.  Perhaps The Conduit will, too.

 

What's funny to me is how the wii fans point to Halo and scream mediocrity and then in the same breath praise the Conduit when if anything it is basically a halo clone with wii remote. The question comes up then if the wii mote alone makes a good game. And personally, I don't. I believe the wii remote works the best with the genre but it doesn't make an already mediocre game not mediocre (case in point, red steel). Personally, I'm hyping the conduit but at the same time I realise that it very well may be a mediocre title. Other then the wii mote it doesn't really add much new gameplay wise. You speak about unique weapons? I didn't hear you crying out how amazing R2 was for it's unique weapons. Those weapons were unique and never done before and didn't rely on a controller in order to be so. Just imagination. You people criticize one thing and praise another of the same type which is ironic. By the way, what was said (by me) about K2 having a unique cover system isn't that you can lean out and peak but that it never leaves first person view. All other games with a cover system switch to third person when you take cover. There hasn't been a game to my knowledge with a cover system like K2's. But that's not the point I was trying to make. I don't care what game you like better and why. I was just pointing out that it's very fanboyish and stupid to claim one of these game's is better because it's doing newer things when K2 is bringing new things to the table other then wii mote controls and we have no info at all for Halo: ODST so how could you possibly know what it will be bringing to the table? It could be the most revolutionary unique shooter of all time and you wouldn't know.

 

 

I've never regarded Halo as mediocre.  And another question that would also necessarily arise is if graphics alone make a game good, which they don't necessarily either.  I don't think anyone here is arguing R2 doesn't have great weapons, but it's true The Conduit changes what can be done with them, so it too brings something really new to the table.  MOH:H2 (for the  Wii) has a first-person cover system; lean and look while remaining in first-person.  And I was not saying The Conduit was going to be better.  I was responding to someone else who said KZ2 is better.  And, as you pointed out, perhaps The Conduit will bring something revolutionary to shooters (and, with some videos I've seen, I feel it may).  And there hasn't been much available gameplay for The Conduit, whereas Killzone2 has had a beta, so I would say the unknown factor is much larger for The Conduit.