@mibuokami: I think the part we may not agree on is where you imply that the audience for these violent/etc games is the same one as it gets older. That is of course partly true, but as you can see in this site, the current teenagers are very interested in these games too, while the Wii is capturing many of the older gamers (although of course people here often own more than one console, which rarely happens in the market as a whole according to NPD).
This is my impression and it may be wrong, but I don't see the so called "hardcore" audience being a more or less fixed group of people, it's very much fluid.
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