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Soleron said:
McStormy1 said:
ksv said:

So Nintendo games don't have artistic integrity because they sell well? Never mind they are the developer with the highest number of critically acclaimed games in the industry. I guess the Zelda series, Super Metroid, Super Mario Bros series, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime etc are just crappy mass market products with the lowest amount of effort for the biggest amount of sales.

ICO on the other hand, now that is made by true artists.

 

 

What insights can you find or idea's can you interpret from playing Mario, Zelda and Metroid? Nothing. They are simply games with fun and polished gameplay mechanics. They won't challange your perceptions nor will they provide anything more meaningful than an afternoon of fun. There is nothing wrong with that, however IMO Sonys console and even MS' offer a deeper more well rounded experience with games that are simply mainstream fun and a niche of games that are more progressive in their idea's for gamers looking for a deeper experience. Nintendo's games are creative, I would not say they constitute art or even strive to however.

Okay, you're insane. Every game ever made by a corporation is concerned with making money for its developers and publishers, directly or indirectly. No game is about "challenging your perceptions". How does shooting people until you yourself die (which are >90% of the games on an HD console really) consitute "progressive ideas"? How can a game be a "deep experience" when it isn't real and beyond the level walls there is empty space?

 

 

Everything you said holds true for cinema as well, yet cinema has established itself as a valid artfom. There are many movies that are not big budget that you have probably never heard of by directors more interested in expressing their artistic visions than making a box office smash. Only 5% of books break even yet there are many literary classics and more released each year,, another medium established as a valid artform. 90% being crap holds true for every media format, not just video games. It doesn't mean that the small minority is not worthy of recognition.