Squilliam said:
vdoesntforgive said:
Squilliam said:
Onimusha12 said:
Squilliam said:
Because no console company exists in a vacuum. Their actions also effect the companies and people around them. When you contrive a different set of circumstances surrounding known events it always has unexpected consequences. These unexpected consequences may be for the better or worse and you simply don't know because once you change things you're heading into unfamiliar territory. Therefore saying that if they did X instead of Y, things would definately be better is untrue. |
I'm curious as to how anything I've said suggests any of the console companies exist in a vacuum. Perhaps you're just borrowing terminologies that sound good rather than actually fit the situation? You are entitled to think whatever you like, but as I've already pointed out you don't have adequate logic to back your claims or ideologies, just vague and dodgey "well, anything could happen" deferments to any real substance.
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You cannot predict the future. -> Established fact.
Butterfly effect -> "Small variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
Therefore you cannot say "Had Sony done this or that they would have been X"
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I've read the thread up until this post, so I don't know what discussion has gone after this. But I just wanted to point this out, as I don't understand how you could think otherwise.
I can say with 100% confidence, that had Sony launched the PS3 $300 (give or take), they would've been in a ridiculously better position than they are right now. That writing was on the wall 5 seconds after they announced the price at E3 2006. They screwed themselves over by trying to shoehorn a media storage that wasn't needed onto their existing loyal base, and using them as scapegoats to drive down the price and get blu-ray players into peoples homes. Remember them saying they could sell 6 million consoles without even releasing any games?
They were wrong, and it hasn't really payed off as well as they had hoped for them.
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Can you say with 100% certainty that the Wii/Xbox 360 would or would not have been changed to accomodate? Remember, all eyes were on Sony, if they did something differently then their competition would have too.
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I feel that Nintendo's mind was made up long before the announcements of the other two machines, which direction they we going to head in.
But yeah, Microsoft would've tried to undercut Sony no matter what. Wouldn't have mattered though, if Sony never screwed up, because Sony 3/4 years ago where in a position of power.
But they did screw up. They put B-R in their console. Prices were hiked, and because of that, promises were cut (BC etc etc...). They were late to the market, and because of it Microsoft stole support and mindshare.
So yeah, their position now is absolutely down to decisions made years ago, in my opinion. Odds are they still wouldn't have been in first, but they definately could've been in a strong second, instead of being in the sad state they are in now, not even being able to convince third parties from going completely multformat.
