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Hyruken said:

The ironic thing is people i have had round think the old dvds ive got look better and that is just them being upscaled.

Quality upscaling on a well calibrated quality TV go a long way for most people. I got a 50" Plasma TV in mid 2006 and suffered major buyer's remorse at how poor my DVD's looked on an expensive upscale player. I seriously considered returning the TV but decided to look into a better upscale player and wound up getting an Oppo digital upscale DVD player after reading a lot of overwhelming praise for it's picture quality. After that I was very happy with my with watching DVD's on my TV as the Oppo made them look outstanding.

Personally I think the whole HD thing is a huge scam. The TV I have was a over $3000, and it wasn’t until I spent a little over another $100 on a upscale DVD player from a small obscure company I was happy with the quality of the picture I got from a media I thought looked great on any old tube TV. Ironically the other upscale player that did such a poor job was made by Samsung, same as my TV.

I might just be ignorant of the technical workings of TV’s, but is it not possible to include the same scaling components from an Oppo or similar ones in modern HD sets? And if Oppo made a profit from selling them for just over $100, is it not feasible cost wise to do so in a TV that cost over three grand? Call me tinfoil hat crazy if you want, but it really feels like companies are hosing their sets when it comes to SD signals in an attempt to push you to buy HD content.