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superchunk said:
Comrade Tovya said:

 

You are right, I am biased, but so are you, so what is your point?

You have absolutely no clue as to where the Jews of Gush Katif ended up... thus far, every friend I've mentioned in my posts (whether they be Jews or Palestinians) are liars according to you.  Be honest, what do you know about my friends that you'd have the chutzpah to call them liars?  That makes you look foolish, not I.

Secondly, how many Jews that lived in Gush Katif do you know?  Did you march in the orange march?  No, you didn't, but I did.  Therefore, please stop telling me that I know nothing when I was there for the expulsion and you weren't.  I might be crazy for thinking so, but I'm pretty sure I know where my friends live better than you... If you have some kind of inside news on my friends whereabouts, please share, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, you just look foolish calling people that you don't even know liars...

 

1. The only person I've called a liar, indirectly, was you.

2. I have no clue *exactly* where all your so called friends ended up. What I did prove in the post you quoted is that even when Gaza was closed down (<8,000 people), the other settlements grew (~20,000 people). So I would logically assume that the greater majority of the people from Gaza ended up in other settlements in WB, or would you rather me call them Judea and Samaria.

As was the case in my Israeli-Palestinian conflict course, 400 level University class taught by a former US Ambassador to Egypt (no he was not Arab or Muslim), even with factual primary evidence the two Israeli girls in the class wouldn't accept the simple truths. Israel is not the victim nor are they always on the defense from the hordes of Arab terrorists. They have always been as much the instigator as the Arabs. Difference is they always had better weapons and more, better trained fighters.

 

A) Fine, you don't know me either, so I hardly think you are the one to judge my honesty.  I don't agree with your opinions, but I won't call you a liar because I don't know you personally... and I don't judge people based simply upon differing opinions.  So maybe you should take a look in the mirror and judge yourself rather than a total stranger.

B) Right, so you are making an assumption by looking at numbers as to where the settlers ended up.  I'm not angry with you because you assumed wrong.  My original post in this matter wasn't even directed at you, I was talking to someone else.  I think you are just acting like a child by sitting behind a computer screen picking fights because you don't have to see that person face-to-face.

My point is, I have no problem talking with you, not even when we are in disagreement.  I believe in the democratic idea that people don't always have to agree to take part in the same discussion.  But if you are going to cry "liar" everytime someone offers up a different opinion, then what is the point of this conversation?  Maybe you are lying to me?  I don't know, but I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that you are probably being sincere in what you say.  I'm just asking for the same respect, that's all.

 



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