Israel kills top hamas leader with 2000 pound bomb

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mrstickball said:

Nickelbackro said:

Esmoreit said:

You could also turn this around. We could hypothesize that it would be smart to return to the situation now 60 years ago when Israel was formed. Why don't the Israeli's leave their lands altogether and start reliving like they did for centuries: amongst different races and people in small conclaves? It wasn't ideal but with a lot more tolerance around the globe and the need for wealthy settlers they should be welcome everywhere!

Then the Palestinians, Egyptians and Syrians can reclaim the ground they lost 60 years ago. Then, we only have to hope that with the "sting" removed from the conflict, Hamas ceases to be as it is in it's current form.

The problem is that Israel gained its Jewish majority and nationhood through a peaceful movement of migration, and as such was rewarded with its nation status by the UN. Giving a nation such as the modern day Palestine their own sovereignty would be a horrible thing. It would be a reward for decades of violent and excusable behavior and would encourage further terrorist action due to the fact that often when you give a man an inch they'll take a mile.

Extremism and terrorism are philosophies that strike at the core of modern humanity and as such can not be given any chance to gain further foothold in the world community.

@ Esmoreit - So does that mean that the Americans (both USA, Canadian, Mexican and Latinos) should be forcibly removed from their territories as well? I mean, it wasn't their lands either.

One on my biggest beefs with the current Palestenian movement is that it seems that they are totally, and only concerned with taking over Israeli land, and not the historical Palestinean land(s), which also include parts of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Why are they not bombing Jordanian targets to get land back there, too? The Palestine territories, pre-Israeli were political boundaries defined by the Ottoman Empire, and British Mandates.

It seems that, more than anything, the Palestinian conflict has more to do with someone fighting Israel than it does with actual land disputes - The Palestinians dispute there should not be any nation there, other than a Muslim nation.

Very good point, I was just about to type the same thing.

Israel consistently gets targeted as the oppresor of Palestinians, but their own Arab brethren have kept them in camps and as second class citizens in other Arab nations.

A friend of mine close to the situation told me that the Arab leaders don't like Palestinians, and they don't like Jews, so they pawn them off on each other... kind of like the saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

They don't like either group, so they like to see them fighting each other.