Hamas legalizes Crucifixion

[Avinash_Tyagi]

mrstickball said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Wrong stick the Gosepels are not first-hand scholars agree that none of the apostles wrote the gospels, in fact that they were written well after the apostles died and were written by people who never knew Jesus

 There are no first hand accounts of Jesus, only dubious second hand accounts

Which scholars agree that none of the apostles wrote the gospels? You keep saying that scholars don't agree with the Bible, but have provided no names, or statistics, or facts to base your arguments on - only vauge references that some scholars don't agree with a particular statement, which is true of every piece of history.

 

 

 Where is your evidence that the Gospels were written by the apostles themselves?

 

Also if you want evidence just do a google search for "Dating of the gospels" and the "synoptic gospel problem", heck even Wikipedia will have the information if you're too lazy to go elsewhere, here i'll even give you the passages from wikipedia on the dates:

 

Beginning in the 18th century scholars have increasingly questioned that traditional view, and today most scholars agree Matthew did not write the Gospel which bears his name.[4] Most contemporary scholars describe the author as an anonymous Christian writing towards the end of the first century. [5] The consensus view of the contemporary New Testament scholars is that the Gospel was originally composed in Greek rather than being a translation from Aramaic or Hebrew.[6] It is nearly universally agreed among scholars that Matthew (and Luke) used Mark's narrative of Jesus' life and death, plus the hypothetical Q document's record of Jesus' sayings while the minority argue that Matthew was the first, Luke expanded on Matthew and Mark is the conflation of Matthew and Luke.[7][5]

 A wide range of recent critical scholars believe that Mark was written at the earliest after the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple in 70.[21][22][23][24][25][26][27]

 Contemporary scholars conclude that Luke, like Matthew, relied on Mark for its chronology and on the sayings gospel Q for many of Jesus' teachings. Luke might also rely on independent written records.[7] It is probably the work of a Gentile Christian, writing c 85-90.[8]

Since "the higher criticism" of the 19th century, critical scholars have questioned the gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[7][8][9]

 Most scholars agree on a range of c. 90–100 for when the gospel was written, though dates as early as the 60s or as late as the 140s have been advanced by a small number of scholars. The writings of Justin Martyr use language very similar to that found in the gospel of John, which would also support that the Gospel was in existence by at least the middle of the second century,[25] and the Rylands Library Papyrus P52, which records a fragment of this gospel, is usually dated between 125 and 160.[26]