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Final-Fan said:
ssj12 said:
fkusumot said:
ssj12 said:
It makes perfect sense if you look at the confines of what it means to do a crucifixion. The only time it was used was when someone did something horrid against the empire or shook the general order of things.

If it is not used in the way it was originally meant to it would fall into basic torcher rather than defending the beliefs of your kingdom.

The crucifixion of Christ was justifiable but if some random joe gets crucified without stirring up a load of crap like Jesus did that it is not justifiable.
Wut? I thought Jesus was crucified with some petty thieves. Which Bible you been reading ssj?

Also, I thought Pontius didn't want to crucify Jesus but he bowed to political pressure. That makes it justifiable?
I havent touched a Bible since yesterday since two copies where at my register at WalMart. Otherwise havent touched one since I was 8.

Anyways it was the Romens that called for the crusifixion of Jesus.

I thought the Romans were the ones who did the crucifying, but the Jews were the ones pushing for it. 

 

Wrong.  That's one of the key points that disproves the "New" Testament.  Jews at that time, for a number of reasons, wouldn't have pushed for his execution to begin with (due to when the event supposedly happened, and even more importantly Halacha, Jewish law, which only permits execution for certain things)

Long story short, there is no historical record outside of the New Testament (that was written at least 30 years after J.C.'s death) to backup any claims from the Christian scripture.  And the writing of Josephus confirming anything from the New Testament was long ago scientifically proven to be fraudulent statements added by the Church to give them an historical precidence to verify their claims.

I hardly think someone who knows nothing of halacha could debate such statements, because the very thought of this Jewish mob doesn't fit within the context of such laws.

 



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