Hamas legalizes Crucifixion

[Avinash_Tyagi]

mrstickball said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

mrstickball said:
Kind of interesting no one brought up Josephus mentioning Jesus in his book 'antiquity of the Jews'

It was written in 93AD.

At any rate, it seems that no matter what, Hamas and the Palestinians don't want freedom. You don't gain freedom by launching daily rocket strikes into a neighboring country.

 Actually I think Josepheus was mentioned earlier, and as I said he wrote long after Jesus was believed to have died, and was in fact likely even born after Jesus's supposed death and therefore he never met the guy, and therefore anything he wrote on Jesus is only second hand accounts and therefore not evidence on its own.

 

Also wasn't the American war of independence started because colonial and british troops started firing on each other?

He wrote within 60 years of Jesus's death. I fail to see how that totally destroys someone's credibility. If this is your line of logic, then we must throw out any historical book based on history before the writers lifetime. It's not like Josephus couldn't of talked to eyewitnesses to Jesus's life, or family members. In fact, Josephus mentioned Jesus primarily based off of his brother - James, who was one of his Apostles.

The American Civil War started by political acts of the revolutionaries to reduce and remove British control of America. Eventually, it led to firefights, but was first started by political agression - such as the Boston Tea Party, and Britan's responce in the Massachusettes Government Act.

Furtermore, if your argument is that a war starts by troops firing on eachother - then Hamas has certainly declared war on Israel by the targeted suicide bombings and rocket attacks...So no condemnation of Israel should be justified - since they are merely at war with Hamas.

 

 

 I never said it destroyed his credibility, only cast doubt on it, only made it uncertain, also it is unlikely that Jesus's brother would live to the 80's-90's AD, as people died much earlier back then, heck even to the 60's AD would have been a feat for a man who was a contemporary of Jesus

 

True but it wasn't until the fighting that it really became them seeking independence, even earlier what they were seeking was fair representation.

 

Also while I don't blame Israel for going to war, I do blame them for targeting civilians, if you allow civilians to be targeted in war, then there was nothing wrong with 9/11 it was just a brilliant military strike, no matter how many civs are killed