Origin: How the hell did you manage to try to explain "outdated" to me, when I put the two words "outdated graphics" together on purpose ? Even your explanation of outdated is flat out wrong. You say it like it's a fact. "outdated" is a matter of opinion (which basically is why you can never explain what "outdated graphics" are). Some people pay a fortune to play these old games, and sure enough don't call them outdated. But assuming that it's outdated because it's old, the Wii being pretty new, you're contradicting yourself with your own definition. Then, if you talk about graphics, let me tell you all the consoles have always been outdated, for the simple fact that PC always provided the best "graphics" , whatever that means to you (that's not my opinion at all). And that includes XB360 and PS3. So no, what you say doesn't make sense, as all the technology you say is outdated, is exactly the same as is used in XB360 and PS3. Even worse, SD (which is a component of graphics) is still the current mainstream format for now, so is far from being outdated. The nonsense continue, when you say Nintendo was slowly going the way of Sega. Last time I checked, Nintendo never stopped making profits, even with the Gamecube. So I fail to see how they were going the way of Sega. This has always been wishful thinking from anti Nintendo people, nothing else. This is especially noticeable, when these people just forgot that Nintendo were still thriving in the portable console market. But it seems all reality escape people when they want their point to be true, when it's clearly not. The problem of Nintendo was with 3rd party, it's pretty simple really. A games only machine works pretty well, but you need games. My meaning of a commodity, is a product that anybody can pick up just like that. This implies that it's cheap and easy to use, that don't scare people away by just looking at it. Finally, what you say about Nintendo "gamers" games is strange, as they also make FPS and RPG ...