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HappySqurriel on 21 December 2008
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FrostyTop said:
MikeB said:
Viper1 said:
1920 x 1080 @ 60fps is possible but not with a lot of shader operations or post processing going on.

Because those shader operations are what make the games look so nice, they'll sacrifice some resolution or frame rate (or both) to get them.

Seriously, 1920 x 1080 @ 60fps with minimal shader ops is rather pointless for such consoles.

1. It's hard to fully determine what kind of progress will be made on the PS3 in the coming years regarding game engines at this point (it depends on talent and effort), anyway the RSX beats the Xenos in terms of shader ops per second and the far more flexible Cell is able to perform here as well. 2.There are endless oppertunities for optimisation regarding the Cell. More of an issue may well be to have all the assets delivered in line with the effects and such, 3.using more procedural approaches may help in this regard.

4. 30 FPS may well be enough though for many games, that's movie like fluent in terms of animation. For fast paced games there's also the possibility to implement motion blur like is done for movies.

 

1. No it doesn't

2. It's been out 2 years, devs have had access to it for 3 or more years. If it happens then you can talk like that and carry weight.

3. NO

4. Please stop your embarrasing yourself.

Frame rate of film is 23.98 frames per second, yes this is fluid enough for films. In fact if it was more fluid than 30-35 fps it would look unrealistic...Like soaps on UK tv they are de-interlaced in 60 frames per second to look like live action. A film at 60 frames per second would look ridiculous and unrealistic, like when you watch a "making of"...

My point?

I don't have one...Just like you! Animation in fact is normally closer to 15 frames per second in terms of how many actual frames are "drawn" not the output signal...

Different applications need a different frame rate, and 60 frames per second for gaming is way more preferable than 30 frames per second, you "watch" a film.

You REACT to a game, and smooth motion is essential and makes for a much more pleasent experience.

Are you trying to say that 30 frames per second is sufficient? If you are then why are you in this thread. Create a new one yourself, this thread is to find out how many games are rendered at a NATIVE 1080p60fps.

Of which so far we have...

 

Virtua Tennis 3

NBA09

and one other...can't remember.

 

Film can be at a lower framerate because photography naturally blurs which gives the impression of fluid motion and there are tricks used in animation (hand drawn and pre-rendered) to perform a similar action.

Real-time computer images are far too clear which results in it looking very jerky at low framerates ... There are some games that do use a simulated motion blur, but this does take processing power and is (usually) one of the first things to go when a game has performance issues.