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i was just saying that both movies won in many categories, not specifically mentioning which awards they got. i'm just saying that movies that win so many awards can't possibly be that low in a meta standpoint. it just doesn't make sense.

as to before sunset, i mean the entire plot is just a series of events that you already know is coming. you don't expect anything except just petty conversation. its like listening to a couple ramble on about themselves. in fact there's no plot.