| Bitmap Frogs said: There's *many* ways to back your claims about your own background without "submit a fifty page abstract, etc etc". Also, I wonder why anyone has a problem with this. It's exactly the same Sony did back in the day: use superior resources to those available to competitors in a market, resources coming from a strong parent company, to bankroll success using a loss-leading model. edit@wiistation if someone claims to be involved in the industry enough to be able to gain knowledge about the real costs of the 360 and wants us to swallow his facts without proof, at least he should be making a convincing case about his background. .... See? This is what I mean, this thread just reads as a boombox for some bad pr on MS. You just tossed another line in your last post. I've been reading kohlers posting history and he's been very active in the sony side of the forum reading things the good way for sony. Including the spread of interesting bits of ancient pr such as the "10 year plan" etc. |
Sigh.. what an incoherent reply... What does "It's exactly the same Sony did back.." have to do with my knowledge in manufacturing processes and costs? And once again, hopefully for the last time, I have _no_ insight into the real costs of your beloved gadgets, be that an XBox or a PS3 or a monster truck. What I have is 25 years of experience in various mass manufacturing industries (including industries that deal with making of computer/console parts). Just to drive you nuts, once I visited a research laboratory that developed dyes for Blu-ray discs before most of you even knew there is something like Blu-ray discs coming. And just to drive you more nuts, I'm not going to tell you where that lab was, because it is utterly irrelevant. Just for your fixed idea that I am somehow "good for Sony", I do not care the least whether XBoxes or PS3s or Wii or whatever toaster gadget sells or does not sell, I have no connection to Sony, Nintendo or MS, never had a console and never will. But this is all irrelevant. I was only trying to remind people that all those posts telling people "MS/Sony/Nintendo makes profit on the manufacturing level with gadget xy is not correct occasionally. And to drive you even more nuts (yes I can be rude, too), I recently talked with a MS representative and in our discussion mentioning manufacturing prices, he did not flinch the least when i gave my estimates, but his answer "we get the money back with hw addons and the software" was telling. And no for the last time, I do not give you his phone number so you can have "proof" this happened at all (didn't know this guy, anyways).
And yes, my writing style can get extremely agressive when I see people twisting the stuff I write and start to interpret stuff into it that simply is not there because they either are not willing or able to understand what I write.
