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The Anarchyz on 16 December 2008
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.jayderyu said:
The Anarchyz said:
Don't make mistakes, all of them will go optical for their consoles, obviously flash media for the handhelds, and here's why:

You are only talking about MS, Ninty and Sony, but you don't count something into the equation: 3rd PARTY PUBLISHERS...

Remember that 3rd party is key to all of them, and 3rd party is not going to abandon the really cheap media for going flash in consoles... For that to happen the difference in cost has to be small enough to go that route, and right now, while optical cost less than $1 to manufacture (as opposed to 32 GB flash that cost $50 in retail, now figure how much is the production cost), it's not convenient for 3rd parties, unless Microsoft is willing to pay a lot of money to them for compensate costs (and we know Ninty won't take that route)...

I still remember when Square got in a fight with Yamauchi because of many things but the hardest one was because the 64 MB cartridge, while optical costed a lot less and brought 700 MB per disc... Ninty won't make the same mistake again, they're already slowly recovering 3rd party support...

Time to stop being short sighted. People are giving examples in todays figures mostly because people are questioning the idea in todays values. This is an idiotic mistep. No one expects in reality to shift to flash tomorrow. In reality next generation will starting seeing the evolution of flash to cathup. It's the generation after will such an idea start becoming feasible. Only becuase if you look at the rate of flash space vs optical/HDD space increase vs cost flash is going faster. It's been mentioned again and again, but 8 gb flash just some months ago was really expensive. It's less than half the price. faster than other current mediums. If this idea is hard to understand well. it's not our problem. Heck I remember having to load games from tape cassette, then 3.5 720kb disks, 3.5 1.4mb disks, then finally cd, if you can't believe another tech will pass the current. then your being delusional.

It's true, i used today's figures, but people is talking about next gen, not the one after, and next gen is due by 2011 or 2012 aproximately, by that time flash media will still be more expensive overall... Now, if we talk about the gen starting in 2017-2018 then it will be possible... And of course i don't have to believe about one tech succeeding another, because is not a belief, is a fact, but as i said, people is talking about next gen, and i don't see that happening next gen...

Squilliam, you bring royalties into the argument, but do you think that with flash this thing will dissapear? it's not that easy... The transport part is true because of the size, but that will not depend on the flash media, it will depend on the cases, check this image for example:

PS3 cases are shorter than the GAMECUBE ONES, by logic the GC should have shorter cases because of the 8 cm media, but they don't. We don't know if they are gonna take advantage of the flash size, and the consumers must be pleased too, because many of them (including me) love the cases, bootleg and the artwork, hell some 360/PS3 owners are willing to buy the FFXIII 360 version to get more artwork (because of the multiple discs)...

I'm for the flash media, but next-gen it won't happen...