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samus aran rules said:
windbane said:
BengaBenga said:
windbane said:
samus aran rules said:
windbane said:
WiiStation360 said:
Wii Sports Resort is the new WiiPlay.

(People will complain sales should not count as well)

 

And they'll be right, but it just shows Nintendo's genius this generation. They can sell any game they want as long as they bundle it with some controller "upgrade." First, Wii Sports and the Wii just to get the new controller. Then Mario Kart (useless wheel), Wii Fit, and now Wii Sports 2.

Why would anyone own a Wii and not get the game that makes the controller better, or the way it was advertized.

Ok I get what you are saying but come on. Do you mean to say that people buy Mario Kart WII because of the wheel? Sure it´s a nice feature and clever way to market the game but it would be useless if Mario Kart weren´t such a great game.

As for Wii Sports Resort, Wii motion+ sure looks great in my opinon and I would definately get it in itself if good games were to follow it, but I´m gonna get Sports Resort with or without it and I´m sure many besides myself would too.

 

 

 

Yeah, I'd say Mario Kart is more getting people to waste money on plastic to accompany the game, but I know there are a lot of people that bought it just because of the wheel. It worked both ways and I agree with you that it was good marketing. I thought it lacked features that the previous games had, so I didn't like the new Mario Kart as much. In fact, it had 2 fatal flaws: no co-op Grand Prix and no FFA battle mode. Anyway, I digress...

 

So now we're at the point where a traditional successfull franchise like Mario Kart sells because of a piece of plastic? Try not to get too desperate.

Mario Kart Wii is the best MK since the SNES and the online is fantastic. It has more characters/courses/vehicles than any MK before but obviously Wii owners don't buy quality games, so it has to be becuase of the Wiil....sad.

 

Seriously, can you guys not read? I clearly said that Mario Kart is more getting people to buy the Wheel than the wheel getting people to buy the game. It's still Nintendo making more money than they deserve, unless you count good marketing. So no, I am not saying that it sold because of plastic. I am saying the plastic helped some in conjunction with the ads but it was more of the reverse effect (again, selling useless wheels).

Mario Kart is one of my all-time favorite franchises. I have loved every version released. When Double Dash came out, I was disappointed it didnt have online but it was still my favorite GC game. Online is great, but it's comparable to Motorstorm 1 having great online play but not having splitscreen co-op when you completely ruin the FAMOUS battle mode and don't allow people to unlock stuff with co-op play!

Oh, and btw, having more vehicles and characters does not change the freaking gameplay. At least double dash had special attacks based on which character you had. MK Wii doesn't even have that (which, for balance issues, is probably fair, but still). I just said above that having all those old tracks is awesome, but they are useless in battle mode since they DON'T LET YOU PLAY THE OLD MODES. I do not want to play against the freaking AI! The old tracks for racing is awesome, but I don't want to play so many tracks so many times to unlock everything by myself when it's supposed to be a party game.

If you don't agree, fine, but those are my opinions based on loving the freaking franchise.

Ok, calm down, it´s just a silly conversation on a videogamesforum. Maybe we misunderstood you but you did say this and I quote: They can sell any game they want as long as they bundle it with some controller "upgrade".

This make it sound as you´d only expect the games to sell because of the controller "adons" rather than the game itself. I just think that Mario Kart would be a huge seller with or without the wheel. Whatever I´ll drop this now.

 

 

yes, I originally lumped Mario Kart in with Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Wii Sports/Wii itself.  Then, you correctly pointed out that Mario Kart was more of the opposite that the game sold the controller.  I agree with that, even if it did work the other way a little.  Every post since then, I've agreed with you about that issue.  Either way, Nintendo is showing it's genius at every turn with that strategy because they get more money than they would have.