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forevercloud3000 said:
selnor said:
forevercloud3000 said:
@jetrii2

My MGS4 has about a 4-5 min install initially, and a 30 secs to 1min install between acts. Most of the time it doesn't even feel like a install rather a loadtime screen. It goes so fast you dont have the time to care.

What I am saying is...
if FFXIII is 4 disc minimum for 360. that is 8+8+8+8=32minutes. Now I am not arguing this as a bad thing, far from it. That was never my point. My point was that someone used 360 installs as incentive to get the 360 version of FFXIII when it in actuallity is neither a good thing nor a bad thing. it is 0, it ads nothing to the debate at all.

Bad disc drives(-1)
installs added(+1)
Verdict: 0

 

 We have already been over this previously in this thread but heres the jist.

I think your missing the point here. Now installs are available on 360, if a feveloper optimizes the game when the game is chosen for install, every game that is installed on 360 has the ability to perform better than it's PS3 counterpart. Because it never ever has to access the disc other than the first 10 secs to make sure you own the game.

PS3 install still has to read off the bluray as well as HDD.

Yes you do have to load each disc on, but the performance can be better with installs now on 360. Can read data much faster than any DVD or BD spinning disc.

Any game in 2009 that is coming to 360 can be optimized for those who install. So it provides a decent reason for people to do it, performance gain, as well as noisless console.

 

I understand where you are coming from. Yet my point is that it is not concrete whether installs for FFXIII will have any effect for 360 version. I have been warned of some games not getting any boosted advantages from being installed, even some cases of the game actually running SLOWER(I believe the game was Blue Dragon, could be wrong). It is not a sure bet Plus. The only reason Installs were ever even implemented on 360 was simply to evade disc reader problems due to the faulty hardware that is the 360. faster load times for SOME games is an after effect.

Yes but now installs are available for any game the developers can now optimize the code for installs. Any game out up to this christmas wont have been optimized, so from 09 onwards we will see bigger performance gains. And lets be honest, optimizing the code to read from HDD faster is at the most maybe an extra month development. So considering M$ made it so all games can be installed, the devs can now take advantage of install optimizing with their new games.