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bbsin said:

Listen, I see that this is just going to go back and forth forever so I'm going to say my piece one last time.

1. No one is arguing against whether or not the Wii **will** or **will** not become the next dominant JRPG console. Heck, if anything, none of us knows. The only person that saying anything is you. You're going rampant over the fact that it's been picking up momemtum as of late and you're using that as a basis of it being the "definitive JRPG console".

The reason why you're wrong is because you're arrogantly touting "wii dominance" based off of what *will* be released in numbers. Yet up to now, you've been dismissing franchises such as SO, ToV, Mist Walker games, 13versus, WKC, or anything that can **Possibly** be released on any console other than the Wii. 

You'd have to be pretty dim to not realize that your point is premature and reckless. 

2. I'm using pure facts that you wish not to accept. JRPGs have never sold "great" when you throw the big hitters out of the equation. You use the word "table scraps" to define every other game, and you're basically right. 

It's going to be very likely that the Wii will not be anywhere close to the "definitive" JRPG console as the PS2 were, especially if the most popular 3rd party franchise is excluded (to this point).

Lastly... about the quality argument...

That's right, I am stating the obvious. The issue here is that you cannot accept the obvious. Do you still not see the correlation between me saying "you can't imply that the the Wii is 'the definitive JRPG console' with only upcomming titles" and the fact that "no one knows how well the games will turn out, because no one has played them yet"??? It's not hard to grasp.

Remember your initial argument. Throughout all these posts, it has slowly changed into something else. Where as mine has been restated and has been kept consistant the entire time. You're equation is clearly lopsided and flawed, and so is your definition of "definitive".

1. You keep saying that you're not arguing about the Wii's dominance, but then you throw around the PS2, and then you start prattling off the same games. The Wii is the dominant JRPG console now, and will continue to be the dominant JRPG console in the future without these games, so why do you keep bringing them up? If you say the Wii can be the dominant JRPG platform (as if it isn't already), wouldn't it be so even without the games you keep listing? I mean you keep proving my point, the Wii wins because it's getting support from more than the same two developers.

2. You haven't used any facts, you've gone in circles and mostly brought up pointless things like "quality" for games that aren't out yet, and then saying "I know it's pointless, that's why I said it lol." No, that's why your argument fails lol. Everytime.

I knew Dragon Quest X was going to get under people's skin, but I thought it was pretty obvious that the Wii was going to be the dominant JRPG console even before the support came flooding in. Japan has, and continues to be, a one console market. It doesn't mean other games won't exist on the other consoles, because they always have, but it's not going to change the Wii's position as king. There really is no reason for the Wii not to be the JRPG king when 360 is only getting checkbook RPGs and the PS3's support is nearly non-existent outside of Square Enix. This is just the way things have always been and it's clearly not changing anytime soon. 



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