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halogamer1989 said:
Jackson50 said:
vlad321 said:
Just an interesting observation pertaining to abortion, I'm also not generalizing here, or at least trying my best not to. The most interesting people I have noticed are the religious republicans here who will go on and on and on about how government should stay out of people's lives as much as possible, then you ask them about abortion and they do a complete 180 turn on you. Not saying everyone, just the ones that are like that are interesting.

 

That would be similar to accusing them of hypocrisy for opposing murder. They view abortion as murder and, therefore, the government has the duty to protect others (fetus) from harm. 

Abortion is a contentious issue because those who oppose abortion classify it as malum in se. Those who support it view it as a constitutional right. It makes compromise, which is what I advocate, an impossible goal.

 

 

Nowhere in the Const. does it mention abortion b/c if a woman was to get pregnant, she would be married first with consent of the father I might add.  Also, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness rings a bell and unless you define abortion as fulfillment of happiness then there is a defining creed for life laid out by our founding fathers.

There is no compromise.  There is rational belief that our nation, founded on Judeo-Christian values, should be a shining city upon a hill not tarnished by the repercussions of immorality and lack of maturity of men and women.

 

There are thousands of things that we take for granted that aren't mentioned in the Constitution but that are still protected.  Take intellectual property for instance.  Sure the Constitution guarantees property rights, but the definition of property has broadened since the 18th century.  And the idea of intellectual property was muddled at best during this time period, and has morphed several times until current day.

Intellectual property is a legal fiction which we maintain because it is commercially valuable.  The only reason the word property is in the name of the term is because we put it there and the only reason we consider it property is because we want it to be property.  Technically something like a trademark or an idea doesn't actually exist.  Does that mean we shouldn't protect it as a property right since there was no clear idea of what intellectual property was when the Constiution was written?  No, because that produces absurd results and is counter to what the Founding Fathers would have wanted.

While the Constitution is in many ways a shackle on the way we interpret things, the Founding Fathers intentionally wrote it in broad terms so that future generations could interpret it in a way that would adapt to new problems.  The Founding Fathers didn't address a great deal of things in the Constitution, but that doesn't mean they aren't constitutionally protected. 

The Constitution doesn't even say anything about who is the final interpreter of the Constitution.  The Supreme Court essentially pulled that power out of the Constitution even though you could argue that it isn't actually there.

 



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