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BengaBenga said:
naznatips said:
BengaBenga said:

I agree there won't be a single JRPG console to own. Untill now it's clearly the 360, but next year there will be a lot of Wii JRPGs. PS3 is kinda sad atm.

Fire Emblem doesn't have any benefit from being published by Nintendo, aside from maybe being available at retailers (which isn't even the case) due to good distribution. There was no advertising for it and it doesn't have any recognizable Nintendo mascots. It simply sold well because, contrary to popular believe, there actually ARE hardcore gamers on the Wii.

A majority of Wii owners are casual so won't buy JRPGs. But the majority of the HD consoles is made up of shooter fans... The PS3 doesn't have a single JRPG seller yet and still you think it's more logical P5 will be on PS3 than on Wii, despite Wii having abou 3x as much consoles in Japan and at least has some evidence it can sell JRPGs. I do agree that a PS2 version is very likely.

The content of the game is totally irrelevant. Nintendo published Fatal Frame 4, which if I recalled the previews correctly deals with locking up young girls on an island. And Killer 7, No More Heroes and RE never had problems being on a Nintendo console.

 

Ugh, this post is almost as bad as his. 

The PS3 just had Valkyria, Disgaea, and Eternal Sonata released.  Two great and one reasonably good (and slightly improved) game.  Valkyria is without question in my mind the best one released so far this gen (and, if you ever get to play it, far better than Fire Emblem). It's ridiculous for you to sit there and defend Fire Emblem sales then say the PS3 can't sell JRPGs, when it's just released two fellow SRPGs, which as you know is not a high selling genre, and Eternal Sonata is incredibly late on the market. 

Disgaea is selling in-line with all previous games in the franchise, and was cheap to make.  Valkyria is selling nearly in-line with Fire Emblem, an already established and well-known franchise, as a new game on the market.

I will bust balls on all sides of an argument.

Oh, I agree that Valkyria is probably an amazing game. I'd love to play it. But the JRPG situation on PS3 is nevertheless about as bad as the Wii one, with that difference that Wii has a number of announced titles for next year, while PS3 will likely mainly have WKC (in the West that is). So yeah: I think the JRPG situation is bad on PS3 AND Wii. I specifically wrote atm, everything can change.

As for sales: Valkyria selling almost in line with Fire Emblem is definitely good (but the difference in cost between the two is staggering). I was mainly talking about Dragon Quest Swords and Tales of Symphonia 2 though, when I said Wii has SOME evidence it can sell RPGs. I mainly talked about FE to show that there is a fanbase for niche titles on Wii.

 

The difference in cost is not "staggering."  It's certainly a difference, maybe a fairly large difference since FE was built on the Gamecube engine, but it's not what you make it out to be.  Valkyria Chronicles only had a 2 year dev cycle.  That's not big at all, even for a Wii game... and from a technical standpoint the game is hardly impressive.  It stands out because of its art style.  It also uses a minimalist approach to design.  There are no massive open worlds nor dozens of CGI cutscenes.  Outside of combat all you have are the menus that you use to navigate the town and buy/upgrade/recruit/train/etc. 

It was not an expensive game by any means.