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to answer one question in the thread: over here MS2 isn't discounted (yet >_>)

I guess that Sony should be happy that retailers perhaps overestimated this title, as it probably got them some profit already, despite it doing pretty badly.

The people who suffer the most probably (as a discounted version is very probable with the current sales and the numbers still on the shelves) are the retailers in this case.

Perhaps an example of a game which has done quite badly in the charts, but which still managed to pull a profit because of retailer pre-orders?