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bardicverse said:
Prof, I'm just letting you dig your own grave on this one.

1 - MS Updater does NOT update virus definitions, as it has nothing to do with your Anti-virus software, which is run by a separate company with its own updating system. I guess I am right, after all.

2 - Your post about your best friend is like posts saying that "people I know don't play the Wii anymore". Filler, no meat.

3 - As someone who spent 10+ years as an IT admin, no, hacking and cheating are two very different things. Cheating using a bug exploit and cheating by using a program that enhances your advantage are two very different methods. Is the old Contra code for 30 free lives hacking? Even though its more of an easter egg than anything else, its still a cheat code, but it is not a hack.

4 - As I stated, a user statistic for exploit usage can only be correlated by page hits or search hits to the website that hosts the cheat code/exploit info. Information in Webalizer that is only accessible to them, unless they have a hit counter. So, you can either assume that somewhere between a few users of a particular console to every user of that console is the general range of exploit use. Pretty wide margin to work with.

5 - Thus far I've not called you any names or insults, I just stated that your analogy about MS update was dumb. I'm sure the mods will like to have a chat with you soon.

1. Huh, yeah it does, because windows defender is my anti-virus. well lookit that! you are wrong after all

2. No, it's not at all like that. Sure I don't know the name of the program he uses, but there are many that have been around for years that work and continue to work undetected.

3. I'm just talking about pervasive use of the word. If someone in a game is perceived as having an unfair advantage, the first thing you will hear is " _____ is hacking"  I explained that it wasn't accurate, but it has become the accepted terminology without being technical. Words start to become broadly defined as their usage increases. Things similar to overlyused word become incorporated. Just like when my mom used to tell me to stop play nintendo (when i was playing sega) because to her, the word nintendo meant video games. Sure that is just an anecdote, but it is a thing that actually happens in the world on a large scale. feel free to not believe me. 

4. yes it is a wide margin. but there are going to be more for pc users. 

5. Maybe they will tell me to settle down, but like I said, I'm not angry. You just refuse to admit that pc gamers hack more than console gamers. Not only that but you did insult me, and are wrong to boot, as shown in my response to 1.

EDIT: ok now for real, i'm done