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Malachi said:

Maybe it's off topic but what is gamer obssession with the whole "mature" thing exacly? I mean, do the normal person care if the movie they watch is "mature"? Considering Adam Sandler sucess, i'll go with a big fat no, so why game? I understand that the gaming demographic are mainly male kid and young adult, an age where one is more concerned about the subject (it go for female as well) but it seem even older gamer care about the subject.

Why? I mean, after a certain one stop being concerned about "being mature", which is actually a good barometer, if you stop thingking about the subject you are either in fact mature or have not yet hit puberty, so why do they care if this particular game is or not? Matury isn't based on what game you play but in the responsablity one have, and take care of, in his life, not what one do to distract himself when he get a few hour of free time. I mean, would you consider a father playing a children game with is son immature?

 

As near as I can tell, this never ending discussion started like this.

  1. ESRB creates a system that uses the word "mature"
  2. Teens and pre-teens whose favorite genres typically fall in the M rating started assuming that by playing "mature" games they were in fact mature.
  3. Fanboys who were a subset of the group mentioned in the previous point began attacking other genres/systems/whatever as not being "mature enough for them" or "kiddie"
  4. Fans of the genres/systems under attack fought back by declaring the genres the (previously mentioned) fanboys loved as immature (under normal english definitions)
  5. Other fans of M genres got drawn in because they now saw their favorite genres being declared immature.
  6. Ad infunitum

 

Other than all sides getting so sick of this discussion that it cannot continue, I don't see any way it can end.

  • The ESRB won't get rid of "M" - its a great marketing tool
  • Kids are programmed to seek out thing that make them look/feel mature
  • Fanboys will always slam everything that's not their favorite
  • People will always react badly to their hobby being insulted
  • The internet will always be a place where arguments can escalate out of control because the participants will use generalizations that will offend more than just the person they were arguing with