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wfz said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
The terrorists already won when we made the Patriot Act, started detaining people without trials, condoned torture, and started living in fear and became more racist, xenophobic, and intolerant than we already were. Why would they want to do it again?

Who is this "we" you're talking about? I've seen nothing of the sort. I won't comment on the beginning part because I haven't looked much into that topic. The rest sounds like a silly child's rant, to be honest. What do you have to prove what you said?

What you described could have been used for a few months after the 9/11 attack, but I don't think that fits at all. In fact, the way we reacted against 9/11 was an improvement on our "racism" problems. Did we lock away all the middle-eastern people like we did to the Japanese in WWII? If anything, that "racism" you speak of is mostly people's fear, which I'd say quickly died down in subsequent years. I've never seen anyone be mean to someone who looks middle-eastern, and I've never heard of anything like that in the news. I even have a few middle-eastern friends and they've never had any problems.

Well my "we" was a gross generalization of America.  But our government's reactions have been to take away our rights to protect our "freedom," which is a self-defeating purpose because what the hell is freedom without rights?  Illegal wiretapping scandal, Patriot Act, and Guantanamo.  I think those alone mean the terrorists won.  They made us scared, so we took away our own rights.  They very literally "destroyed some of our freedom" by getting us so scared we'd destroy it ourselves.

What I meant about the racism and xenophobia wasn't the government's reaction, but it's 7 years later and we still have people freaking out because Obama might be a "secret Muslim" or a "secret Arab," (because these are obviously despicable things to be) and there are several people in Guantamo right now with no charges against them and no trial dates, being held "indefinitely" for "nothing," and we're supposed to assume that they're terrorists and deserve it.