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Stats87 said:
mrstickball said:

E can profit from 360 games. The problem is that they're throwing the rough equivilent of Radiata Stories at the X360 rather than the beefier ones. Lets wait to see how Star Ocean: TLH does before making proper judgements.

Now, there are a few reasons that KH3 could be considered a viable option on the Xbox 360. I'm not arguing it as the best, or most obvious one (I'd think that KH going to all 3 systems would be the most advantageous):

  • Development Costs. They're going to be cheaper than making the game for Playstation 3. More expensive than the Wii, but the game would have far more features, and factors in to other points further down.
  • Install Base. Kingdom Hearts is primarily an American-driven franchise. Quite possibly the most American franchise Square has ever had. Fitting that's also the X360's best region, no?
  • Live Intergration. Since KH characters, and settings are based heavily off of Disney movies, it's only fitting that they intergrate "hey, get this movie off of Netflix, or rent it from the marketplace" for extra cash.
  • Downloadable Content. Along with the whole live intergration bit, DLC could be huge for a game like KH3. Guess which system has the most robust DLC system out there?
  • 3rd Party Support. Of the 3 companies, which one has been the best for 3rd parties this generation? Lets face it: Only Microsoft has aggressively pursued 3rd parties. 
  • Spin-Offs. Even if a mainline KH game came to the X360, it'd be very plausible that other systems would get big KH-esque spinoffs in the future. Furthermore, XBLA would be a great place for SE and Disney to lay claim to bigger, better profits. While Square can say that FF:CC MLAK has done well, the fact is a game like Castle Crashers (which has less overall pedigree than a Final Fantasy game on a DLC system) has sold just as well as FF:CC, but in half the time.

Star Ocean is your "proper judgement"? That's hardly a big series as well

Then what series is? The Xbox 360 has only had one JRPG sequel it's entire run - Tales of Vesperia, which looks to outsell Abyss in America. Star Ocean may not be the best example, but I think at Star Ocean, we need to draw the line, as fans of the X360 (or detractors) and say 'it can sell JRPGs' or 'it can't'.

Also your points are somewhat flawed.

You bring up Development Costs/Install base in the context of profits, (I assume) but if that were the case then the Wii or even the DS would make more sense then the 360.

Yes, but we're also arguing PS3 here as well - and the X360 is the much better of the 2, by far.

Install Base: Again the Wii huge in NA and MUCH bigger in Japan.

But not the attach ratios.

Live Integration: You could apply this to the PS3 as well "hey go buy the newest Disney movie off Blu-Ray" or "hey go to the PSN download service and get some Disney Movies"

Which service would offer more revenue? The one that has almost as many online, Gold-membership users, or the competition that barely has more systems than that? (MS has 14 million Gold members, FYI)


DLC: The PS3 can do that as well. Yes the 360 has more exclusive DLC with games like Fallout 3, but how does this effect SE?

I'd love to see some DLC packs that have been on the Playstation 3 that have sold anywhere near what the X360 has. As far as downloadable games go, the X360 seems to beat the PS3 by 2:1....Big incentive if your destroying the competition, no?

3rd Party Support: Yes the 360 has had excellent 3rd party support, but I don't why SE really cares. The fact is, Kingdom Hearts will sell like hotcakes no matter where it goes, so if it is all about profits then the Wii is the logical choice, not the 360. (especially 360 exclusive)

The Wii would be a logical choice, but it seems that most logic has gone out the window, at some point, or another. It still has the worst 3rd party support of any system, and has had very few core, full-price titles have massive success on the system.

The problem with your argument is not so much that its wrong or anything, but each point could be argued for another console. Personally I'd rather see it on 360 or PS3 then the Wii, but the game is so far away from release that I cannot be bother right now to truly care.

I wasn't arguing that my argument is inherantly right, but possible. From an executive's point of view, the hard data has been in favor of the X360 - it moves more software per console than the Wii, MS has a much better online system than the PS3, and also has the gusto to make things happen in backroom deals, or whatever Microsoft has done to garner so much 3rd party support.

 



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