Wow, when did this topic become so spazzed? All of the arguments here are just stupid, i've read through this entire thread twice and I cannot make sense of anyone... both are talking about their side of the argument at the other person but really not bringing anything new to the table other than personal opinion. I don't even know what to say or where to start. The Wii's graphics are outdated by 'graphics' terms, but does that matter? No I don't think so, not in the grander scheme. I think the Wii60 or the WiiS3 effect will be a great one. Arguing personal opinions on graphics and art style is stupid... if one game was SO great and was 'perfect' they why wouldn't everyone buy it? People should understand ESPECIALLY KAMAHL that Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are targeting different people. It really is Sony vs Microsoft with Nintendo off to the side on this one. What is the point of arguing the power of the Wii against the PS3 or the 360? It's pointless, there is only one way it can go. Motorstorm and Resistance suit the PS3 target quite well I think, but that's something a lot of Nintendo fans don't get, they try it and don't like it and can't understand why it's popular (i personally think the game is totally crappola but that's my personal opinion - oh and it looks okay to good). Nintendo is going for Nintendo Fanboys with their key titles like SMG, MP3 SSBB, Paper Mario etc while also going for 'non-gamers' which Sony and Microsoft aren't really capitalising on. There is a greater portion of 'non-gamers' than gamers in the population. And the points about HDTV and SDTV penetration? What the? 18% penetration is what I understand the US to be at, at the moment, 50% of TV's purchased are HDTV's last year... great excellent, 100% of the population bought TV's last year? YEAH RIGHT. If 50% of TV's purchased were HDTV's and there is 18% penetration of HDTV's then that means 36% of the population bought new TV's last year?? again YEAH RIGHT. Realistically 20% or LESS of the population bought new TV's last year and therefore 50% of these purchases may have been HDTV's which then gives 10% of the population buying HDTV's last year. Take out the rich people who upgrade to a new and better TV every one or two years, or buying a second or third one for a household and you maybe have 5% of the population buying new HDTV's which means the maximum that the HDTV penetration can reach by the end of 2007 if it continues at the same rate is 23% - albeit it will probably increase in rate, and therefore maybe 30% of homes will have HDTV's. This leaves 66 million people with HDTV's. 43 million people bought PS3's in America, that's less than 30% of the total population that had TV's purchased a PS2. Therefore its safe to assume that this number is the maximum percentile of a group that will purchase a console, this drops because of the price and other things but that's another argument. If we take 30% of 66 million that leaves 19.8 million. This figure is a rough guide as to the MAXIMUM user or sales number the PS3 can achieve (without taking into consideration a LOT of things). 19.8 million people aren't going to buy a PS3 for MGS4 or FFXIII or Motorstorm or ANY of those games, so they need a broad range of games to cater for this 19.8 million people. Take everything I just said with a grain of salt as all of my points are rhetorical with no real figures to back them up, but using the numbers both sides of the argument have sprouted it's better to look at the TOTAL equation. I haven't taken into account things like the people who will buy 360 or PS3 and use it on an SDTV, there will be many I am sure, but then the appeal of the console goes away somewhat because the HD benefit is much larger. Lets now calculate the possible user base for the Wii... actually lets not, you can get my point.
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