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Kamahl on 29 March 2007
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shams said: Here is some more food for thought for you all... 1. MS are overcharging for the Elite because its *new*. Lots of people WILL buy one - even at this price. Once they sell as many as they want, they can drop the price as needed. Figures already show that the premium model is easily outselling the basic model.
I'm pretty sure you never said anything like this about the PS3 and made it sound good, im pretty sure you said or thought, who knows... something like "IT COSTS $600!!!!11!1! (even though there's a $500 option if you don't need wi fi or 40 GB)
shams said: 2. I still don't see how this *hurts* MS. Unlike Nintendo, MS have always been into the "HD generation". The HDMI option gives users that WANT a HDMI connection an option to buy a 360 - the black colour will also interest additional gamers - and the larger hard drive is nice for people using it for IP TV.
The thing is that not offering since the beginning and they have actually pissed lots of their fans. Let's say i bought a $400 360, but i was never able to get 1080p that i wanted. now this one comes out... Thanks MS for making me waste $400 on a not so good version.
shams said: Regarding online gaming, I never have agreed with MS's model. I understand *why* they do it - so they can offer a "premium" service, manage everything themselves, and generally get more money out of it - just don't agree with it. Like anything with a $ tag attached, it adds the "illusion" of value to the deal. It also gives them the ability to generate press by "dropping" the price, making it "free" (when it should be anyway), and doing a bunch of other things. With Sony's service, its assumed that its free - and you'll get the opposite press - people bitching about having to pay for *anything* on there (and Sony will charge for a lot of things), service not being perfect, not comparing to Live, etc.
You really don't know anything, nothing costs on the PS3 online service, except for games, are you really expecting them to be free? I'm not. It's the opposite actually, MS makes you pay for almost everything, in fact, they make you pay $70 for the firs year and $50 for the next years and they are giving you a P2P server, which is slower, laggier and overall, crappier. While Sony is offering dedicated servers with absolutely no lag (unless the player has a really bad connection, but that wouldn't be sony's fault) for free. I agree that XBL has some things that are better but i won't pay $70 + $50 every year for that difference.