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Smashchu2 said:

So I watched the Gametrailers Bonus I I'm noticing some thing

First, the Wii HD. GOD< this annoys me. The industry has some idea there will be a Wii HD in 2011. Now, why is it that people beleive Nintendo, the compnay that is in 1st will compy the losers. Not to mention Nintendo could probably sell Wiis from 2012 or 2013 (probably longer). The NES did this. The PS1 did this. The PS2 is still doing it. So, why does everyone beleive the succesful Wii will only last until 2011 and return to what everyone else is doing.

Thing is, many view it because of how limited the Wii is in terms of hardware...When the Wii gets inferior ports of nearly every single title, analysts wonder if Nintendo will upgrade the Wii to at least get decent ports for competitive reasons.

The other thing is this console war. Really, this isn't a game of risk despite what everyone wants to think. This is a buisness. It's about money, not the number of boxes sold. Yes, the number sold is importaint, but people only look at certain veriables to determine how successful a console is. Many people will say the XBox beat the Gamecube (yes, becuase the game industry is some kind of battleground), yet Nintendo made FAR more money. The industry, of course, doesn't care about this and only sees boxes and BIG TITLES.

So you, as a gamer, take high amounts of comfort in who brings in the most profits? For Microsoft losing a lot of cash, I'm a relatively happy gamer as a X360 owner - I've got tons of fun games (the 'Big titles' as you call them). In business terms, yes, the profit is all that matters. But as a gamer, the content matters far more - which is why people love talking about awesome game X selling well, and shovelware game Y doing poorly.

There is also a problem on DLC/ Everyone sees it as a major driving force. While I can agree Nexflix is importaint, I don't think DLC matters. Consumers rarely connect their boxes online, so why is it so importaint to have DLC. Microsoft and Sony fight tooth and nail for this, but if not that many people get online then why worry about it. I think it's the same industry arguing like little children. Also, the acheivments/trophies. Let me telling something about them. They say their like a score right. People didn't play games to get a high score, they played the game becuase it was fun. Score exist to keep the player inthraled. If the player doesn't like your game, then why have them. I think this is the industry, once again, looking at something and seeing it is importaint when it really isn't.. It's not to say 360/PS3 games are bad, but the industry is having many warped views. I really think they are alienating everyone. Where are those 120million PS2 owners anyway?

Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 owners connect their systems to the internet 60% of the time. 35% of all Xbox 360 owners have downloaded at least 1 title via Live. Those are pretty important numbers, no? Maybe in your world, the majority does not matter, but in real life it does.

Also, as a gamer, gamerscore/achievements/trophies are pretty neat. It gives us a way to actually look at our gaming habits, and what we've done at a high level. It's such an awesome concept that, as a Wii owner, you don't get. Deride it all you want, but it's neat going back through my 38,000 point list and remembering how difficult an achievement was. It's a way to reward gamers for good work - by proving to others you did it.

And some gamers do play games for high scores. If that wasn't the case, why do some gamerscore junkies have 20x and 30x the number of points above the average? Ever looked at a high score list before...On ANY game in history that has 'em? What about watching 'The King of Kong: Fistfull of Quarters' - High scores exist as an athletic achievement in the same way sports statistics do. It allows us to visually see how good, or how much we improve on a game.

The most importaint thing is that the industry only sees the 360 and the PS3. Hey, the Wii is there too. "Oh, but the Wii doesn't have good online". Ummm, hello, 24connect, Message Board, their Wi-Fi. Many people see Nintendo's system as annoying ans I can agree, but they miss the point. Nintendo does have a strong and smart online strategy. Their goal is to try and make online fun, but not annoying.Not to have 12 year olds screaming profanities at you.

How long does it take you to go online with your system to........You know.......Play a game with people over the internet?

But they only see the race as one for second. They ignore the Wii constantly. They dodge the subject and only talk about it in their terms (Wii HD). I think the game industry is becoming full of elitist. They sit there and discuse the wonders of videogames as art and see gaming only in HD. They do not see it as a business and chat about downloads, big games and DLC. I think the industry has lost it's mind.

Maybe because the race for second is the only relevant one. The Wii has one. At this point, it's like talking about Playstation 2 dominance years ago. And who are 'they'? Business leaders always talk sales - and I don't think a lot love to talk about Game Party being a million seller, because they may be embarrassed that such an odd title sold that well.

Also, being involved in the XBLA download sales scene - I can tell you that a ton of business leaders care about that segment. I've talked to dozens of developers about my weekly charts.

Yeah, I know the video is biased becuase it deals with online, but I think the industry needs to stop living in a box. The industry is not about art. People buy games becuase they are fun, not becuase of the DLC, the story and HD graphics. They buy it becuase it is fun. Yet they continue to think this way despite the HD bros are struggling.

Ever thought that DLC may be a way to make a fun game....Funner? Or longer? I loved Oblivion. That's why I bought Shivering Isles. Rather than risk buying another game which may be inferior, I payed $30 to expand my Oblivion experience by dozens of hours. If offered the option - Wouldn't you enjoy playing a few extra levels of Super Mario Galaxy or Twilight Princess? I know I would.

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