And MS continues to play catchup for rushing the 360 out hella fast. I think its cool that they are trying to give everyone options, Core for the verrry casual gamer, Premium for the serious gamer, Elite for the tech geek......but seriously, to upgrade my premiums HDD and to go wireless i need to spend 280$ on top of the 400 i spent...with no HD movie player or HDMI? if anyone pays 180 for that HDD they need to be slapped....What are they doing to differentiate their Product? Making it the same color, with less features and a more comparable price tag? Brilliant MS, just brilliant.....now any joe schmo can do the math, i want to play wirelessly and online.....480 + 100 adapter + xbox live = 630, now thanks to this elite anyone on the fence between the 360 and the ps3 will most likely get a PS3 when they factor in BD to th emix as well, why they released this at this price tag when they have sony by the balls is beyond me, its basically a poor mans PS3 with no BD or wireless.....im totally astonished by this.