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Grey Acumen said:
WessleWoggle said:
Grey Acumen said:

I find it funny how quick gay people tend to throw around terms like homophobe and bible basher, as if I've even mentioned god at all, and haven't expressly pointed out that I don't really care if that's what you want. My blood and the blood of "people like me" will hardly boil if we see two guys kiss.
Yep, "people like me" must be such bigots. It sure is terrible how we make sweeping uninformed opinions about individuals based on what views we have of their group. You guys are just so much better than us, and your opinions must be far more valid than ours too.

 

But anyway, if it's connected to brain metabolism, then does that mean it's treatable? From what you just quoted me there, homosexual tendencies are being compared to a mental disorder. They treat people with depression, why not homosexuality? I mean think about it, Damkira just said; "Most people wouldn't choose that because there are so many hateful bigots like yourself who try to make life difficult for us" well there we go! We just need to do a little more research on the subject, and then soon it WILL be your choice!

So what will the argument be for homosexuality then?

 

Yes, lots of people wouldn't choose to be gay, but lots of people also would feeling dishonest with themselves because they're denying their true thoughts.

It still good, feels right for some people, and it'a not harming anyone. Same argument as right now.

Deny their true thoughts? So a person with depression feels dishonest with their thoughts? They can't control how they feel after all, or how their mind works, the treatments they have are designed to help them regain that control. I hardly see how autism hurts people, they just don't socialize well, but there are treatments and research to try to help with that. Mind you, I'm referring to the less intense examples that don't actually lead to depression or the inability to care for themselves, but they still have treatment for those people too.

So why not homosexuality? What makes this part of their nature somehow their "true thoughts" such that denying it would be dishonest? We have drugs for impotence too. Them not having sex doesn't harm anyone, but we have treatments for that. Or are you going to claim that NOT having sex harms people? Are they denying their true nature by taking viagra or whatever the latest brand is?

I still having nothing against homosexuals, I just don't feel its an acceptable activity. I even specify that I have no issues even with a relationship between two men or two women, that's hardly unacceptable at all, the only part I don't accept is the idea that those relationships need to include sex somehow. I've listed out my reasons why I feel that way about a page or two ago. Yet people are claiming MY logic is flawed, so I assume they have some examples that actually make sense here. I've yet to see them.

First of all, you come off as a complete asshole.

And second of all, part of the problem with the world today is we are so quick to label everything a disease and treat it with medicine.  Medicine alters your biochemistry, so in many ways it changes who you are as a person.  Anti-depression medication, for instance, can severely alter a person's personality.  Personally, I think way too many people are on medication in general.  Its essentially the easy way out.  You don't have to address your actual problems and can just cover them up with medication.

I am not advocating that no one should take anti-depression medication, and I think there are certain medications that MORE people should be on (like high blood pressure medication), but your argument is extremely weak that the best solution, or even an appropriate solution, to people "curing their gayness" is medication.  You come off sounding like a fascist.

 



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