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Grey Acumen said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Seven,
I agree, except for the Marriage is religion thing. Marriage came from religion, but so did a lot of other things in life that we no longer tie to religion.

I can be an atheist, never enter a church, never mouth the word god, and me married. Hard to call that marriage based on religion.

You know, it's this type of argument that makes me shake my head. Most people in this country are religious to some degree, and most still believe that keeping marriage as part of religion is important both to the religion they follow and the sanctity of marriage. Basically you're saying; "well, we took all thsi other stuff from the religions and stripped away everything religious about it, so we should be able to take anything we else we want too" and other people are going "well we already took it, so nyeah, they can't have it back" there was an amendment to the constitution to ban alcohol, but that was revoked by a later amendment. If they want to take it back, that's their right to do, provided they do it legally, which they are; by voting on it.

It's this type of attitude that is specifically driving the religious majority out to vote on issues like this to protect their beleifs. Would you be complaining about a law being passed to protect homosexuals from being forced to have sex with the opposite gender?

This is a case where the majority has come to a decision based on their moral views, which yes, are very likely to have been influence by their religion, but so what? Laws are supposed to reflect the morality of society, and protect those morals. Saying that this should be invalid simply because it may ultimately stem from a religious reason is basically saying you have no respect for their views, and if you have no respect for their views, why should they, the majority, have respect for yours?

 

One of the principles of this country is separation of church and state. If you want tax breaks for mirage, fine. But to do that, you need to strip all religious meaning of the word away first. If you don't, then you must believe in god before the government will provide you with additional benefit, or it's against our constitution.

We did that, and the christians got what they wanted. Now when people you don't agree with want the same benefit, you can't now say it's a religious thing. You can't have it both ways.

I want to get married so my wife can visit me when I get sick, so if I die, she is better protected. So she can be on my health benefits, and use my car insurance.

I don't believe in your god, but I do believe in equality. So, allow whomever wants to marry whomever the right to do so.

If you don't want that, fine, remove every government privilege first.