naznatips said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
mrstickball said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
You think any of those JRPG's actually deserve a 90+ average?... |
Compared to what? I think, of those 25 JRPGs I listed (I have a list of about 50 from this generation ranging from 56% to 88%) many of them deserved higher scores - especially the bulk of those in the 70-80%.
I don't know if any JRPGs thus far should of earned a solid 90% average. But from the ones I've played - Tales of Vesperia comes very well close to what would be a very solid, polished, great experience of an RPG. Reviewers agreed that it was the best of the series, and a very good game. Yet slashed points so severely, it doesn't even match up with half of the Tales series!
For example, the following PS2 RPGs are higher rated than ANY next-gen console RPG:
- Final Fantasy X, X-2, XI, XII
- Kingdom Hearts I, II
- DQVIII
- Dark Cloud 2
- Persona 3, FES
- Shadow Hearts: Covenant
- Suikoden III
And the cutoff is there due to VC - take VC out, and there's another 5-8 RPGs before ToV shows up on the list. And that's 1 system.
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Compared to the WRPG's, duh.
I mean, you made the comparison in your OP, I thought it'd be obvious :P
The problem is, JRPG's this gen just haven't been that great. You can expect KH3, FFXIII and Versus, DQIX, Star Ocean 4, Persona 4 and White Knight Chronicles to get plenty of critical success.
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I completely disagree. The World Ends With You is my favorite JRPG since FFIX. Valkyria Chronicles is my favorite SRPG ever, above every Fire Emblem game, and every Disagaea game. Tales of Vesperia is far away the best Tales game ever released.
These games are tops of their genre. When you are giving 9s to shit like Fallout 3 and Oblivion and games like these are lucky to make mid 8s, there's a problem.
That said, in a review system where entire genres of gaming (party games for example) can't score above 7s and reviewers are unable to review outside of their own demographic (25-35 year-old western males) the scoring for JRPGs is hardly the biggest concern. There exists no validity in the world of video game reviews. Games like GTAIV score much higher than their predecessors (highest of all time in a hilarious twist) when they are worse in every concievable way not related to graphics, and games that redefine their genres like Valkyria Chronicles are lucky to hold onto an average in the 8s.
Our review system is a beacon of shame on the industry. If we want a 7 to be our review average fine, but it needs to be consistent and fair to all styles of games and genres. If reviewers want gaming to be viewed as an art form, the first thing that needs to go are the reviewers themselves.
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