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See the problem is as great as those games are, they are very nintendo fan oriented and are for a younger audience. They moslty go for the same demographics, Nintendo lacks the diversity to bring in many differant fans on their own.

GC had nothing to bring in the adult gamers, nothing!!

Those franchises are being made for PS3 and nothing will change that.


Adult or teenage?
Currently Wii seems to be the only console targeting people of the age group 25+.