Reggie: Third parties don't "get" the Wii, more

[The Ghost of RubangB]

Esa-Petteri said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:

Esa-Petteri said:
@ghost of rubang b

My point was that why should a wii fit owner buy another fitness game. If it is not bundled with balance board, it won't attract new buyers. Sounds like a total failure to me. :)

Now I get it. There is nothing original about NMH itself, it is the wiimote. Would DMC be original if it was on PS3/360 with wiimote-copy?

I'm not saying No More Heroes is good just because they slapped some Wii remote functionality onto it.  No More Heroes is good because Grasshopper and Suda51 get the Wii, and they thought of a great way to incorporate the new motion controls in a fun way that doesn't detract from the experience.  Many games just slap some waggle on and it ruins the whole game.

Here's an example of how to ruin a beat-'em-up on the Wii: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.  You just hit "attack" over and over and over forever.  But now instead of that being a button, it's waggle.  They replaced button-mashing with waggle-mashing.  It's horrible.  And not only that, you only play with 1 turtle at a time.

If Capcom could incorporate good motion controls into an old genre, it would be a good game.  Many companies don't get it.  That's what I'm talking about.  DMC would not be original if it was on the PS360 with "wiimote-copy."  Copying is not original.  Ever.

 

People who enjoy Wii Fit might be interested in trying out another exercise game.  Why would anybody who already owns an FPS buy a thousand more?

Also, about 1 out of 3 Wii owners buy Wii Fit.  Maybe the other 2 out of 3 would prefer the cheaper EA knockoff?

 

Wait, is NMH a new genre? What is it, once again? You haven't yet told me what is so original about it. Just the wiimote-part. IF microsoft would make wiimote-copy, how that would make third party games not original? They would not have copied wiimote... or what was that point again?

 

Now I really don't get you. First you say that EA-fit will fail and when I am agreeing with you, you seem to convince me that it could sell. Those 2/3 would need to buy wii fit, just to play EA-fit. Somehow I don't see that happening, do you? ;) You certainly know there is a difference with the target audience who buys fps-games and the majority of the audience who buys wii fit.

 

Oh sorry.  No More Heroes is kind of like a sandbox game like GTA, and you can walk around and drive around everywhere and explore and do side-missions and go shopping and stuff, but you fight with a sword (basically a light saber) instead of a gun, so it's all melee combat, so it's also like a 3-D melee beat-'em-up like Devil May Cry or whatever.

It has a great original story and great original artwork and animation style.  And the controls are amazing.  I just listed the one Wii-remote move that made the biggest difference for me.  But it also lets you do other things, like wrestling moves that are really badass.  Here are some trailers with a good mix of gameplay and cutscenes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvW-LyqYRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtHaeYmm-8

 

I still think the EA Fit game will fail.  I'm just saying that the question "Why would somebody who already owns Wii Fit buy another exercise game?" is not a good argument.  I love rhythm games, so I buy several.  Some people love shooters, so they buy several.  Some people will love exercise games, and buy several.  And you don't need the balance board to play EA's new Wii Fit ripoff.  It's only with the remotes and nunchucks.  It will be cheaper than Wii Fit.

I really don't believe there is a difference between FPS fans and Wii Fit fans.  I think the whole idea of a "magical new casual audience that shops differently" is a bunch of bullshit.