albionus on 28 March 2007
jaspey said:
To cut you down in one fowl swoop. Sony will be in a position to cut the ps3's price by $100 this fall. I'l keep saying it. The wii is no threat to xbox or ps3. It's aiming at a different audience and the jurys out on how long that audiences attention will be kept.
Ouch, why don't I feel cut down in one "fowl swoop". Unfortunately blind fanboy trust does not an argument make. If you read the first line of my comment you would see I didn't say Sony would not or could not cut the PS3's price by $100 this year just that it would be very painful financially. I agree that issue will come up and there will be pressure to cut but Sony is a business not a charity, they simply cannot go on losing money at the rate they are and still stay viable. Especially not after last years financial troubles (if I recall their already massive load of debt got downgraded).
I find it funny though that the Wii will sell over 7 million in its first 4 months, will likely race to #1 this year, is still non-existent in store shelves (I got mine by blind luck, 6th store I tried one day was just unloading them as I walked in), has made major inroads into all gaming demographics save for Sony fanboys and hardcore gamers who can't stand the idea of their girlfriends and grandmothers smacking them down in a video game, has people of all walks lining up at 7am for vouchers almost 4 months after launch, has 3rd party developers rushing to develop games for it (if only due to the grilling they took from their shareholders for incorrectly placing their bets on the PS3 instead of the Wii), is riding an already proven new way of gaming (the DS), and it has to prove itself not the system that is collecting dust on store shelves after 1 month and is attempting to buck the proven trend of $300+ (well $400 now with inflation) too advanced for their own good systems not selling well.
jaspey said:
As always unfounded nonsense.The console war wont even start until this fall. It'l be hilarious watching this site. People massively underestimate Sony.
As I've mentioned elsewhere I think pure money concerns (as in developer cost/profits, 1st party profits, consumer income/spending, etc.) will ensure a Wii victory this round but I didn't say the console war is won yet. Nintendo could still screw up (thus far it has been its own worst enemy, friends codes I’m looking at you) and/or Microsoft/Sony may quell a shareholder revolt and go for broke. Although, even here Sony is badly positioned since its overall profits aren't great, it has last year’s problems to contend with, and its debt is problematic. Also, Microsoft is in a position, again shareholders willing, to outdo anything Sony does so for Sony to win requires Microsoft to be passive (i.e. the ball is always in Microsoft's court). I'll agree Nintendo isn't too great of a problem for either MS or Sony since they are fighting over the 40 million or so hardcore gamers who even if they buy a Wii it wouldn't be their only system anyways. However, they are inexplicably leaving Nintendo alone in the 100 million casual gamer market that the NES and PS1 & 2 dominated. So you're right Nintendo is going after a different market, the bigger one. Further this console war probably won't end this Christmas. Sony has a decent lineup this year since those games were started last year. The Wii is beginning to see excellent 3rd party games showing up down the pipeline and 2008 will be the reverse of this year. That's not a prediction but essentially fact since we know many of the games in development for the next year. I also wonder how good these PS3 games will be if as I suspect (*opinion* so save your axe) developers are cutting back resources on these games since at this point they have to finish them.
You swung and caught air there chap, try backing up your arguments next time.