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nine0nine said:
Joelcool7 said:


I dont think there ever was a nintendo that gave us regular E3 presentations of AAA+ titles, all their games have been pretty sparce in there release dates and often very delayed. If you look a the Cube, it had nothing i would class as AAA+ untill pikmin, and then thats a stretch. Luigi's mansion was flawed, mario sunshine was flawed, waverace didnt live up to its predecessor, nor did MK.

In the case of the N64 before that, Nintendo were a little more focussed i think, but Rare had a massive part in its reletivly small amount of success with Goldeneye and the other games they produced (all of which were pretty much AAA+)

The wii is geting a slighly different focus this time, and its working, they are targetting the casual first and then the 'core' and this will work i think. Mario party, soccer and the few other first/second party games that are out now have somewhat mixed reviews, but the same games in the respective series on the cube also got the same mixed reviews, its nothing new here. The only thing is i think theyre bringing them to the market much quicker than before. I mean no other console had metroid, a mario platformer, mario kart, smash bros and others withink its first 12 months.

Wiifit, wii sports, the 'big 3', mariokart and some exciting third party games all due within the first 18 months is an incredibly strong start for a machine.


 You mention only GameCube and Nintendo64, now the N64 did have a very steady pace of solid AAA+ games comming every year down to the bitter end. You are right alot of that was RareWare but Nintendo is more then capable of replacing Rare infact they have aquired so many studios since their is no excuse.

My prime example would be the SuperNintendo, their wasn't a single year where their wasn't a few AAA+ titles availible. The titles were amazing and then N64 came and right from launch you had a solid Mario game and a line-up that maintained Nintendo's AAA+ catalog up untill the GameCube's launch.

Your argument that so many key Nintendo titles were flawed is substantial tons of people loved those games and they were all considered heavy weights. That being said the Wii is doing just as good as GameCube in my opinion you have a gimmicky new Mario game impressive looking just as Sunshine was (I liked sunshine by the way) you've got Smashbros:Brawl just as GameCube did and you've got MetroidPrime.

This year is pretty good but with WiiFit being Nintendo's big showcase for the next year and future of Nintendo I'm beginning to get a little paranoid. For the last few months I've had nothing to play on my Wii I had hoped Pokemon:BattleRevolution would change that but it turned out to be a total pile of crap.  I'm really worried that after Nintendo's used its Mario, SmashBros and Metroid cards its going to forget about its fans and maintain its stricktly casual approach.

 As for the sales stats and attach rate. Its true but at the moment the main sales are going to the hardcore loyal fanbase. Now I'm sure casual gamers are contributing a bit but the existing fanbase remains the driving force. I just hope Nintendo's new casual approach doesn't neglect us existing fans!



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