albionus on 28 March 2007
Hus said:
sieanr said:
why would i pay same for a much inferior console ?
400 console
200 live
200 for hddvd add on
100 for wifi
wow 1k, 1/3rd the hd, no hdmi.....
lets go 360 Elite
470 ?
+ 200 hddvd
+ 200 live
+ 100 wifi
damn almost $1k ..... it willl do what my PS3 does but for $370 more.
That $600 spent is really looking good.
What if I'm not interested in online play, or am willing to pay for a far superior set up, have no problem using an ethernet cable, and don't care about Blu-ray. Then $400 for a system is a lot cheaper than $600. If you do care about those things then yes the PS3 is a better deal but even then $600 is still a lot to ask for most households. However, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that far more people would choose the $400 system than the $600 even knowing all that.
Kamahl said:
3rd party sales for the Wii are not very good, maybe you should think about that too.
75% of the best games exclusive to the Wii, sorry but this is just impossible.
Also, the PS3 isn't overpriced, it's expensive, those 2 words have different meanings and it has some good games out and lots coming soon, specially in 1 year.
3rd party sales for the Wii haven't been bad, they aren't as great as percentage-wise Xbox or Playstation but never would be due to competition from Nintendo. Compared to the Gamecube 3rd party sales have been far better on the Wii. Here's the sales of 3 games on the Wii/PS3 and their predecessors on the GC/PS2 :
System Wii / GC / PS3 / PS2
C o D 3 251k / 110k / 212k / 908k
Madden 311k / 355k / 335k / 3,552k
N F S:C 128k / 170k / 185k / 1,106k
This is with only 20% as many Wii's as Gamecubes. As can be seen CoD3 has sold more units on the Wii than the PS3 while Madden and CoD3 have sold reasonably close. Granted the attach rate is lower on the Wii but developers care about overall sales not attach rates and so long as the Wii continues to outsell the PS3 by almost 3:1 the PS3 will never regain the monkey-stomping level of dominance the PS2 had over the GC. Well the difference between expensive and overpriced is one between fact and opinion. It's indisputable that the PS3 is expensive, but it's a matter of opinion that it's overpriced. I consider it overpriced but as a working college student any system over $300 is overpriced in my book.
Ultimately I can’t imagine the Wii not being #1 not because of fanboy-ism or love of the Wiimote but for simple financial reasons. The Xbox360 and PS3 are simply too expensive to generate mass appeal. The 360 is in a position to become mass market eventually since it didn’t force everyone buying their system to also buy new expensive technology they may or may not want. But the Wii will always be far cheaper and easier to use so I doubt many casual gamers will switch by then. Also Sony is losing way way too much money on the PS3 to ever afford it achieving the status the PS2 had. Players have been spoiled by the last round of Microsoft and Sony dumping their systems to increase their market share. This round Sony has taken it to such an extreme that they face a shareholder revolt if they move the number of systems they expect. Video game companies are companies, they have to make a profit. Even Microsoft is being questioned about its massive losses for the Xbox and they will be questioned even more after their poor sales become an issue over the next couple quarters.
The simple reality is that only Nintendo has a viable long-term business structure, only Nintendo is making money, only Nintendo can appeal to the casual mass market for the time being, only Nintendo doesn’t require mega development budgets, and only Nintendo can move the number of next-gen systems 3rd party developers need to reliably sell their games for a profit. Hate, or dislike, the Wii for whatever reason you want but that isn’t changing.
Thanks for the correction Kwaad, read the number above NFS 
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