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Tispower1 on 18 November 2008
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vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:

 

Oh I agree that Deism covers the very general points of most religions, pure theism at its best. That does not remove the fact that it is being used and probably its strongest perprotrators only used it so that they wouldn't be completely discreditted by every single church in existance, especially when the church had so much power back in the day. Deism is a cop-out reiligion for people that want to be believed and not discreditted (or to not get diowned by yourparents) and it has always made me sad to know people had to go to such extents to be heard.

Where is your proof on that one?  Seems like a big stretch.

If anything i'd say there was very little reason to be an atheist around the time Deism started... as things like evolution weren't even widely understood or exlained so there was no good reason for where humans came from.

Heck, there wasn't even a good arguement out there against the metaphysical when Deism was created.... not even a "backdoor" one.

There was little to no reason for anyone to be an atheist at that time... it made more sense to believe got just hated you or was testing you or something.

 

It wasn't atheism, it was going against what had been put forward by the current church. Earth is flat, everything rotates around Eart, and other such claims came in direct contrast with what the church was teaching. Many great minds were imprisoned or killed, Copernicus was saved because they couldn't read his notes and Galileo was almost killed had his patron not been around and had he not conceded some points to the Pope. Now these two, from what I've read, were Christians, fulling supporting Jesus.

Now imagine what starts to happen as more and more thing start encroaching upon the church's teachings (Newton), and what happens when the same great minds start wondering about whether there was a god at all or not. Back then the churches weren't as thirsty for blood, but they were powerful enough to completely discredit anyone. Scientists and philosophers needed a way to be heard and not to be labeled as godless abominations, so they took up Deism.

 

Hold your horses! Galileo was punished because of his heretical views on the trinity, not his theories, plus he got a pension from the Church until the end of his life, they can't have hated him that much.