Do you believe in god, if not do you believe in something else?

[Kasz216]

vlad321 said:

Kasz216 said:

chapset said:

Personally I don't really believe in the god they talk about in the bible, it's too human made, but i do believe something else must be the reason why everything is so perfect, every little thing on earth and in the universe has a purpose, an utility. So it made me wonder what is beyond all this? sometimes i just say to my self: this is crazy talk, things are the way they are for no good reason it's just like that. And since gamers are the smartest being on earth and have a lot of time to waist maybe you guys and girls (not likely) could help me clear this.

That's basically called "Deism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

Old Honest Abe Lincoln was a Deist.

Benjamin Franklin too i believe.

 

Deism only came about back in the day (several centuries ago) so that scientific and political leaders could say they don't believe in god without them commiting social suicide.

The church would have ridiculued ANY scientist back then if he didn't admit to god, and hoenstly, would Lincoln have been even considered if he outright said he didn't believe in god? Same thing with Franklin, most people would have thorown him in the "godless damned" pile and not listened to any reason.

Really? 

Because from my research it looked like Deism was created because of the pointless struggles between different religions in an attempt to get them to all agree on the main points they had... basically the guy hated the church and wanted something better... i forget his name.  Some british lord.

Ah it's in the Wikipedia Edward Herbert Cherbury...

still looks similar to that after all the reforms and such.  So i'm going to say you have a bit of a misconception there.