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theprof00 on 17 November 2008
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noslodecoy said:
theprof00 said:

noslodecoy said:
This whole scenario is ignorant of the speed in which technology is developed. To set the technological limits of a next gen console several years before it's release is just silly. It sounds like you'd like a next gen console with backwards compatibility today and this is an excuse for why they could release it so early.

Also, there's going to be load times no matter what. You can increase the bus speed, but you'll always still be limited by the media. At this time, you're not going to spin a DVD any faster and it's too expensive to increase the speed of BluRay (at this time of course). That's where installs come in, as hard drives have a much faster seek time and a much faster load time. Textures don't magically appear in memory. They have to be loaded from the media and transferred. The media is the bottleneck.

PS - I don't know if any of this was mentioned. I got bored of reading without giving my input ;).

 

You aren't technically setting the limits as much as you are just releasing the next gen console now. The next gen actual console would give the same kind of performance boost that the intermediary would see, but on next gen games.

And you are right, it is an excuse to release early. But we have seen how early releases can do a hell of a job on the market, ala 360.
As far as the load times, this would probably be more suited to the ps3 since the BR is much more capable of faster speeds even at this point in time. The ps3 currently has a 2xBR drive, currently there are 8x BR drives capable of >300Mbits/sec as opposed to ~80Mbits.

EDIT 1: Lol, with a conveniently place mouse click, I accidently hit post before writing anything.  Editing...

EDIT 2:

So you want a new Blu-ray Drive.  That's an acceptable request.  And probably the only thing you could upgrade on a console besides the hard drive.  If you start monkeying with the internal specs, you're giving developers more leeway.  Even a RAM upgrade.

Developers who develop games like Killzone 2 or Gears of War 2 are looking to squeeze everything out of the console.  These games are looking to deliver eyecandy which helps hype the game.  It's part of it's appeal.  If you allow technicle specs to change to increase performance, you're giving the developers an excuse to release a game with a low framerate.  The developers could just that it needs to be played with "such and such" specs to gain the optimum experience.

It's a slippery slope and as others said... it sounds like a PC.

Maybe you'll get your upgraded Blu-ray drive in another SKU, but asking for a PS3.5 is unrealistic and unpracticle in too many ways.

Yes, I could see devs getting over excited about RAM, and doing something like what you described. I don't know if it were possible to implement a "Sony" seal of approval, the way nintendo used to do in that regard.

Well, I think that having forward compatibility is just such a great idea. It was already proposed by MS guys, i think, a little while back. So it's not a novel concept, But this would be a great way to ensure FC but not limit next gen too much by this gen.

 Also, I think it would give both sides a chance to really make the most out of margin profit.