Kasz216 said:
That was the Bush plan... so no. I don't see how you could blame Obama for it. It's not surprising. The negotiations and plans were basically decided back when Obama and McCain were neck and neck. They were just argueing about US immunity and how much immunity troops would have for crimes they comit. I mentioned it like months ago. Honestly i expected Bush to push it through before the election to take the wind out of Obama's sails. Then again the media might of took it as a bad thing. The only difference really is that the dates are "set in" rather then scalable. Which was kind of a silly argument anyway... since "set" dates can be changed. Though having to change "set" dates does make you look a little worse. The dates remain uncharnged though. Pullout in 2011.
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Yeah, I have been following this for months as well. Its been a pretty interesting back and forth. I never thought about whether or not Bush would try to push it through to hurt Obama, but that is a pretty good observation.
There was a lot of debate during the summer about this especially about the legal immunity of the U.S. army and when exactly transfers of power would take place. The negotiations led me to criticize those who were strongly against a timetable (like McCain) when the Iraqi government were the ones who were pushing a timetable harder than anyone else.
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