| Final-Fan said: I think FDR is one of the greats even with the racist crap and attempted court-packing etc. because of all the good he did. Lincoln pulled a bunch of shit too, habeus corpus being the big one but some of the stuff in this thread I hadn't heard before. I will say that the internment camps are the reason I have to say the other Roosevelt is better. IMO it's TR duking it out with Lincoln for greatest President other than Washington. (Being the FIRST, and all the stuff he did in the CREATION of the country, and the reverence the nation holds him in ... it's just not fair putting him in the running. Impossible to do a fair comparison IMO.) |
Here is where i want to make my case for Teddy Roosevelt over Lincoln.
Name every other president that makes it high on the list.
What was common with them all that wasn't common with Lincoln?
They all came to the presdiency during great turmoil in the United States.
Theodore Roosevelt didn't really... and is still considered one of the best. That's how much his policies were well received today.
He was also almost flawless.
The only negative thing his presidency is negativly known for is that he tried to change it so spelling would phoenetic. Which, while weird probably would of been better off for us after a generation or two.
His actual biggest mistake was discharging a lot of black people from the army because a town made false allegations, and said troop disobeyed orders by refusing to give any information on what did or didn't happen.
This only being seen as a mistake because of how foward thinking and ahead of his time Roosevelt was on civil issues.
He was Pro-Desegregation, Pro Women's Suffrage, invited Booker T Washington to the white house, apointed variouis minorities and women to key positions withing the government.
Even in southern states, and never backed down to racism when there were protests to try and get him to repeal them.
Lincoln while freeing the slaves, didn't do it out of any love for black people or care for equality, he did it because it would help them win the war. In fact i believe after the Civil War he wanted to ship them all back to Africa.
Heck there were plans for the confederates to abolish slavery to get more troops in their army if things continued for too long.
