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whatever said:
bigjon said:
whatever said:
bigjon said:
reagan in our lifetimes or lincoln overall

Are you even old enough to remember Reagan?  He was certainly not a great president, unless you ignore the deficits, Iran, Nicaragua, etc.  He also made some ridiculous quotes, like the infamous “Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do,”.

Reagan is only idolized by republicans that want everyone to forget his major blunders.  Democrats are starting to head down the same road with Clinton.

 

Ok, in our lifetimes (as in fairly recent).... lets see

Reagan > Nixon

Reagan > Ford

Reagan > Carter

Reagan > Bush 1

Reagan > Clinton

Reagan > Bush 2

The only one even close there is Clinton, but most people would agree Reagan was a better pres than Clinton.. namely he wasn't impeached.

You have to go back to Eisenhower to find a president that compares to Reagan (please no JFK bs.) I put lincoln #1 because, well, he pretty much saved the country, freed the slaves, um ya and was assasinated (JFK's claim to fame).

It was reagan's policies that set up the boom in the 90's. When the market collapsed in 87 if he had overreacted it could have caused ramifications that could have stunted the growth we saw in the 90's.

 

 

Out of that crew, Reagan and Clinton are definitely above the others.  They are both overrated, probably due to what you compare them against.  I would say Reagan is much more overrated than Clinton.  I think its because he's further in the past, so people tend to remember that the economy was good overall and forget the bad stuff.

As for the impeachment, that was a joke.  Let's see, Reagan secretly traded weapons to Iran so they would free our hostages, and then funded terrorists in Nicaragua, and he was not impeached.  Clinton got a BJ and lied about it, so he gets impeached.

 

 

 well i compared him to the presidents over the last 35 years or so... thus the recent history comment. As far as clinton goes, it wasn't that he lied per say... it was that he lied under oath. Which is perjury... Yes i do think the stupid part is they made such a big deal out of it. FDR, JFK, and I am sure others had adultrous  relationships, it is just the media was more respectful back then.



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