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honestly, what good does posting the same type of posts that said UK was a failure do? Wow, Deja Vu, i could have sworn those same sites were telling us how badly the UK launch bombed yet we want to now cite them instead of admitting the crap floating around here is just that, crap. Makes sense to me. I guess you can keep clinging to the failure notion until the actual numbers are released for every country, whatever floats your boat i guess EDIT: this is in regards to the links about france and germany