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The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential...There are many ways to make the death rate Increase." Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense
“…There are only two possible ways in which a world of 10 billion people can be averted. Either the current birth rates must come down more quickly. Or the current death rates must go up. “There is no other way. “There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, war can accomplish it very quickly and decisively. Famine and disease are nature’s ancient checks on population growth, and neither one has disappeared from the scene….
“To put it simply: Excessive population growth is the greatest single obstacle to the economic and social advancement of most of the societies in the developing world.” —Robert McNamara, Oct. 2, 1979
This is the closest I came to finding that full quote. Its from (I think) an issue of New Solidarity. There are no online archives, or mentions of this magazine anywhere on the internet.
Yes, I believe he being clear on saying that he believes and is for population control but in the form of the government taking control of it. The quote that I gave was in the full speech, and I wasn`t taking him By the way the date is wrong though it was in the New Solidarity, March 30, 1981. It is hard to find the whole article , will post the full thing when able to because from what i can tell your information is snippets as well.
No, the place where he said that, where there is proof of any thing like that at all is that date. The issue of New Solidarity - your quote - is the one I can find no proof of existence or McNamara's involvement.
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Actually, despite John Rarick's belief, the CFR is actually not for a one world government, they are not staff by powerful people. It is not staffed by powerful people, it's academics. They are a think tank that tries to come up with solutions to problems.
If you want to learn more about the organization, they have a pretty good website."
Actually I wouldn't really call David Rockefellar, Dick Cheney (ex-director of the CFR, and here`s a video of him confirming this) http://www.videosift.com/video/Dick-Cheney-ex-director-of-CFR-talks-to-David-Rockefeller , Jimmy Carter, Paul Wolfowitz,Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, Alan Greenspan,Bill Clinton,ect. I mean these people are intelligent but at the same time all hold high political power or wealth. I love this quote from the 50`s especially.
You really do not have anyunderstanding of how these groups work. You should join a lobby or think tank, learn something. How is this a secret conspiracy and what does it have to do with what they do in their free time?
" We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950"
This doesn't mean they want it. Like I said, we are going to have it because of trade, communications, and travel improvements. There is no stopping it. How is this a secret conspiracy and what does it have to do with what they do in their free time?
The amount of time I read and researched information on the CFR and what there really about is more than sufficient. Unlike some people who look at the groups website and say oh, well there a think tank, it says so wirte on the page ( Try not to be so gullible, you need to do your homework on what these people are saying and their actions, not what their website says about them)
Lets not forget the 59 page document they released back in 2005 which gave the outlines to merge Canada, the U.S and Mexico or as they state (Building A North American Community).
So they were supporting breaking down trade barriers and setting up sometype of arbitration board... that is exactly what they are trying to achieve. How is this a secret conspiracy and what does it have to do with what they do in their free time?
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Really, your quoting a former Rear Admiral as a power broker? Really? I couldn't find any actual source that wasn't a conspiracy theory website that had this quote. That doesn't mean it's wrong, but those sites usually are.
Actually, all you have to do as I pointed out in my previous statement is read what is being said by memebers of the CFR to understand what there intentions are and that there more than just a think tank.
I was giving different references to show different background and that it`s not just Bankers but Politicians, Big Business, Military,ect. It`s not just confined to one form of sect of government of economy.
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Actual quote from a four page article talking about the development of international policy:
"I'll bet that within the next hundred years, nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority."... half a page later....
"From time to time the best minds wondered whether this wasn't a hell of a way to run a planet; perhaps national sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
He's a globalist, but I don't see how this quote is a conspiracy.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,976015-1,00.html
It`s not necessarily a conspiracy at all and his statement wasn`t.
It`s called being hidden in plain view where as someone reading a four page article would not really catch onto that necessarily but he makes it clear what his intentions are. The problem is that when people like this are holding high positions in the global economy they do have the ability to not only lobby for ideas of world government but push them through. Anyone affiliated whith such organizations,well there actions and statements reflect everything I've stated
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You do realize the Trilateral Commission think tank and lobby for the Banks, right? They do not want global government, because they make money off of international trade. If there's a one world government, there's no currency exchange and no barriers to money movement, they would be out of business. On a side note, they were started, partially to counter CFR; they are competitive think tanks/lobbies... some members are in both, because they are donators to the think tank. Some people think it is a good idea to have ideas generated from different places.
Did you not read any of the statements I provided you? Yes I did, and none of them had a viable source... in fact all of them came off the same list of Conspiracy Theory quotes that has been debunked over and over again that is all over the internet. What Rockefellar has said in his books and quoted. I mean are you that ignorant of the facts or are you just bothered by it that you give a gerneral explation of how they desribe themselves on their website or better yet a Fox News version.It's not about making money. They have all the money in the world they need it's about gaining more power. Again "But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries - David Rockefellar" Do I have to dumb down what he is saying in this quote for you to understand? If he is the founder of this organzation and he states this is their goal......not to mention the fact that he was head of the CFR and is still a top member in that one as well.
They were not founded to counter the CFR. It wouldn't make sense when you have the head of the CFR at the time (David Rockefellar) is the founder of the trilateral commission.
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http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Columbia+University+Speech.htm
Conspiracy!
The funny thing about this quote, is that it originally appeared as Nov. 13 at Columbus University. Over the years it's appeared with all different dates and universities.
Well of course they are going to deny it. It clearly is his voice. I`m a devout fan of kennedy quotes and speeches because the man was a real leader unlike these puppets who have been put into office after him. Have you even listened to the audio? Compare it with every other speech he has givien and you'll be able to tell there is no discrepancies. The biggest problem is that they are completely unable to discredit the speech. They just get some smart ass moron to give his own opinion on what he belives to be true and calls it a religion not history...right. It's clearly his voice and I am completely surprised that if the website itself So you actually heard the speech... has it been deleted off the internet?
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Now, your quoting one of the biggest freedom haters in the world. He's warning US about the future. He was disgusting dark spot on American Civil Liberties... BTW, the quote was about the communists.
"In August 1956, the Elks Magazine published an article about the communist threat to America written by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. In it, Hoover stated: "Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
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