Fallout 3 ,will you buy it?

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ZenfoldorVGI said:

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ZenfoldorVGI said:

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Oblivion? heck their earlier elder scroll games were a buggy mess. You pretty much had to play these with a guide just to avoid the game-critical bugs. Both Morrowind and Oblivion just cemented that opinion.

The only thing their games are good for is modding and that's not something you can do on consoles.

 

Again, that's your opinion. I glad you decided to be so vocal about it, because hate speech is far too quite on this forum.

 

Yeah, sometimes I forget forums are just to exchange smily icons at each other =(

 

You've mentioned your opinion, and reinforced it. I found this line a tad insulting, honestly: Bethesda always has been a crappy developer, because it goes totally against my opinion, and because i respect Bethesda and the people who work there, and if nothing else, they work hard on their games. No need to campaign your opinion around and keep trying to convince others, that's all I'm saying. You're on record. You really passionately hate Bethesda, and you hate this game simply because they developed it. I understand, and it makes me sad, but let that be the end of it. No need to continually re-enforce that already flaming opinion, with new and more relevant flaming opinions.

Saying, "Nintendo has always been a crappy developer" is what I equate your statment to. That's why I've reacted the way I did.

 

Late reply, been playing Fable 2 furiously ;)

You see the problem is that you find opinions that aren't inline with yours insulting. Maybe you shouldn't take your own opinion so seriously - afterall you just tossed the "hate speech" card just because I voiced a dissenting opinion. Stating the reasons why I think Bethesda is a crappy developer isn't hate speech, it isn't campaigning an opinion. Those are pretty nice words but they are just an attempt at avoiding replying to my arguments. If you don't like the reasons why I say what I say about Bethesda that's fine - but you should be arguing my reasons not sticking words with negative significance to taint my arguments.

It's also interesting that you attempt so hard to just paint my opinions as hate while at the same time not quoting my original statement. The answer is clear: because there was no hate for the game in it, there was scepticism about Bethesda's capability of delivering a game without crippling bugs or bleak gameplay.

Finally, respect and judgement about someone's work are different things. I don't need to disrespect Bethesda's workers in order to qualify the results of their job - these are two different kind of judgements.

So at this point, you either make it so that my opinion about Bethesda is wrong providing proof that their previous games shipped bug-free or back off from the discussion. But I won't let you going your way avoiding arguments just to work on the emotional side of things tainting opinion as hate speech just because you don't like what I'm saying. I mean, it's a great way to work around someone's posts ignoring their message but I'm way too aware of that trick to fall for it.

edit: just to add that "Bethesda has always been a crappy developer" and "Nintendo has always been a crappy developer" aren't the same statements - there's a track record of Bethesda shipping buggy/messed games while Nintendo has a pretty good track record of releasing quality games. And if I were insidious (sp?) enough I could go and say that was just a lame attempt at trying to get the pro-Nintendo forum goer to look at your post with a positive bias, which is of certain interest considering the majority of vgchartz users have a certain apreciation for Nintendo.