By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
DirtyP2002 said:
Spankey said:

Q2 FY08 Game

Sales:
Overall segment sales increased as a result of an increase in PS3
and PSP sales


Operating Income:
Primarily due to improved operating performance of the PS3 business
as a result of hardware cost reductions and increased software sales
,
as well as strong sales of PSP hardware


Operating Income
Hardware
(mln units)
PSP 2.58 3.18 +23%
PS3 1.31 2.43 +85%
Software
(mln units)
PS2 38.0 23.1 -39%
PSP 12.6 11.8 -6%
PS3 10.4 21.1 +103%

The bolded part is from the table under games on Page 6 of the report posted in my previous post. Unfortunately I can't insert the table properly, you'll just have to read it.

You know, I didn't say a word about sales of the PS3?

Please take one minute and point out, where my mistakes are.

 

Here are my facts:                                                                                      true                              false

  • The division lost 370 million Dollars                                                    [  ]                                [  ]
  • The division is (mainly) for the Playstation-brand                               [  ]                                [  ]
  • The PSP and PS2 are profitable                                                          [  ]                                [  ]
  • The PS3 is not profitable                                                                     [  ]                               [  ]

When all these facts are true and there is a loss, which product is responsible for this loss? Got to be the PS3. If the loss is 370 million, the loss of the PS3 must be > 370 million, because PSP and PS2 earned money. So I estimate the profit of the PS2 and the PSP combined with 130 million for the past three months. So the PS3 lost 500 million USD in the last three months. (370 reported loss + the money earned by PS2 and PSP)

That the sales of the PS3 increased has nothing to do with anything and I never doubted it. But maybe I still got a brain-bug.

 

its not that easy, there is lots of other costs too like developement costs of new models and probably the first designs for next gen consoles, marketing costs, developement costs for software... also don't forget the effects of the high yen which also lowered the amount they earned of each console

i also think in q2 they probably allready start ramping up productions to have enough consoles on stock for holiday season if thats the case then that will also lead to increased costs (since the consoles won't be sold instantly).

its still likely that they still sold ps3 at a loss, but it would not be right to say PS3 is the only cause for the 370million dollar loss. but its nearly impossible to say how big the ps3 loss is actually.